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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 18, 2011 16:16:51 GMT
Guys:
I'm trying to shortcut a lot of searching and wading through dross, looking for gold.
One of my main interests is the steppe nomads of Central Asia. As I have said (once or twice), every so often these nomads, Scythians or Huns or Mongols or Manchu, would erupt out of Central Asia and conquer piddly, inconsequential little civilizations like China, or India, or Persia, or the Byzantine Empire. (Note for the humor impaired: there was nothing piddly, inconsequential, or little about civilizations like China, India, Persia or the Byzantine Empire.)
I contacted Garrett at Jin-Shi about a saber that would be appropriate for either the Yuan or Qing dynasties, and a rough guide to pricing. The range he gave me was $300-700 for a custom sword.
Here's the deal. I've got a basic idea about Western blades, but I am woefully uninformed about Chinese blades, and the Turco-Mongolian-Chinese blades in particular. Could you guys recommend either good solid websites, or books, that I could use to flesh out my understanding of the willowleaf saber, as typified by either the Yuan or Qing dynasties?
My goal is to be an informed consumer, and to be able to go back to Jin-Shi and say, "OK, here's what I want" with some confidence.
Thanks in advance, guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 16:35:11 GMT
This page mentions a little bit about the liuyedao: thomaschen.freewebspace.com/photo2.htmlOther than that, I'm not sure I can be of any other help. Could've sworn I had at least a few more bookmarks on Chinese swords, but I can't find them. Clearly Chinese swords aren't my forte. Good luck, man.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 18, 2011 17:46:43 GMT
Thanks, Dom.
One of the really fun things is the whole "learning more" process. I still know basically Jack Doodly about swords, but I'm a quantum leap ahead of where I was a year or eighteen months ago. I used to think, "Hey, metal, point, edge, grip, how complicated can it be?" Now I'm starting to get the "feel" of the thing in the hand.
I'm increasingly learning the importance of doing some research before I let my enthusiasms get the better of me.
I had seen the Thomas Chen webpages before, and appreciated them, but somehow failed to bookmark them. This is just the thing I was hoping to find here. Once more, SBG comes through FTW!
Have some java on me. Umm, karma. Yeah, karma.
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Post by HouShe on Jun 21, 2011 13:27:21 GMT
Honestly, if you want to get a good, high quality liuyedao, you went to the right place with Garrett. Also they are nice blades in general. They're my favourite looking Dao.
If you get one from Jin-shi, you'll get accurate feeling and great fittings. Indeed, I'm looking at getting some jian from him in the next few months.
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Post by junon on Feb 14, 2012 15:28:51 GMT
Hi Cossack, there is not much info I can find about mongol sabre ; I guess that that because the heavy emphasis on bow for mongol army (and tendency to avoid skirmish during battle). nevertheless, shifu Scott Rodell did review mongol sabre on grtc forum. You might be interested to read it. forum.grtc.org/viewtopic.php?t=740as for chinese dao, there is plenty of liu yedao replica available but very little on yanmaodao... Hanwei beile dao is the only yanmaodao production sword that I'm aware of. beile dao is quite Authentic in design. please compare it with the picture of Manchu bodyguard from wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manchuguard.jpgexcept for fitting color (black instead of gold), it's pretty close. I read somewhere that green scabbard is the standard color at that day. yellow (and red, if I'm not mistaken) is reserved for emperor and his families).
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 14, 2012 15:48:04 GMT
Junon:
Thanks for the links. Yeah, I'd read that review by sifu Rodell. Now, there's probably a list of people I wouldn't kill for a Vince Evans saber, let me see, my wife, my children, well, at least two of my three children . . . . (I exaggerate for effect.)
Thanks so much for bringing this thread back to life.
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