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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 3:11:51 GMT
Hey guys, I'm new here! My name is Cyrus, I'm a 16 year old dude from Melbourne (Down Under Land ). I've never handled a real sword before, but I'm eager to learn and begin my quest. Backyard cutting is definately something I want to do, but moreso, I'd like to learn how to fight. For the fun of reenactment and for the knowledge of self defense (and making my enemies pay ), I'd be committed as can be, but I have no clue where to start. I contacted the dudes at the Barony of Stormhold (SCA in Melbourne) to ask how I could get involved in the SCA and if they could offer lessons to teach me, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. The amount of information on the SCA is daunting, and I'm aware at my age there are furthur conditions when it comes to combat. I feel akin to the Middle Ages, all my life really. I feel like I belong back then, despite the disease and war, I connect with the times somehow. It's kind of a bummer waiting until November every year for the MMFAT, plus it's the only event of it's type around here. Medieval groups participate but I wouldn't know where they're from or how I could join (or if I could). If anyone could offer some help on starting my sword quest and joining the SCA, I'd appreciate it very much! Thanks guys!
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Post by chrisperoni on Jun 17, 2011 4:10:01 GMT
Start with these drool inducing blades made by a local boy for you: www.fableblades.com/ Brendan Olszowy of FableBlades is a forum member and swordmaker from Australia. If these are out of your pricepoint I suggest you contact forum member stromloswords- he is a vendor located in Austraila. www.stromloswords.com/
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Jun 17, 2011 5:43:42 GMT
Sorry, I can't help out with any recommendations, but welcome aboard. They're a lot of cool people here and I think you'll like it.
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Post by MTmind on Jun 17, 2011 6:42:23 GMT
Welcome aboard. Whilst I'm not an SCA member I did do a little research on them a while back. If your from Melbourne then there are a couple of other local groups that hold regular meetings as well. Arrowsreach (East Melbourne) www.arrowsreach.com/meetingsKrae Glas (South East Melbourne) www.sca.org.au/krae_glas/?page_id=372As for age. I beleive as long as you are over 16 and have your parents sign a consent form you can participate at the very least in the combat training classes (Archery, rapier and heavy) Hope this is of some help to you.
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Post by johnapsega on Jun 17, 2011 7:32:23 GMT
Hey Bro I am 16 as well and love it here I have been around for about a year now and its a pretty kool place I think that you are going to like it a lot.
Welcome aboard John
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Post by Paul on Jun 17, 2011 13:20:49 GMT
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Post by Sébastien on Jun 17, 2011 13:57:13 GMT
Hello Cyrus, welcome to SBG ! Make yourself at home
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Post by chrisperoni on Jun 17, 2011 14:02:16 GMT
Dang! Big Brother bigtime! Good information to know though, very important- +1 for the links! Maybe it'd be a good idea to have a thread dedicated to sword laws in each country- a one stop reference compendium. Jez mods, get on it already! :roll:
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Post by Todash on Jun 17, 2011 14:51:51 GMT
Welcome to the asylum, I mean forum.
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Post by Stromlo_Swords_USA on Jun 18, 2011 3:46:09 GMT
Yeah sort out the licencing down in Vic before you start buying blades. SCA will be a good start, just know they aren't allways up for historical fighting as much as the hemaalliance.com/ type people, and there is a group in Melbourne msg.swordplay.org.au/ but I have never been there. I still have CAS, Valiant and Darksword swords you can have a look at when you decide to get a sword too. Cheers
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Post by ecovolo on Jun 18, 2011 3:51:37 GMT
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Post by George on Jun 18, 2011 9:25:03 GMT
If anyone know of a good Iaijutsu class in Melbourne can you send me a link? I Live near Sydney but am moving to Melbourne next year Also i already have a few swords, if i move to VIC i will have to get permits? That is really sempr!ni lol
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Post by Paul on Jun 18, 2011 12:46:40 GMT
Yea if your coming to Vic you will either have to get a licence or join one of the exempt clubs and stay a member of the club. You also have to comply with the storage requirements ie keep them under lock and key. I posted some links on the previous page that will help.
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Post by George on Jun 19, 2011 1:49:40 GMT
Thanks alot Paul I sure wont wanna lock and key them whats the point of having swords if you cant display them??
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Jun 19, 2011 2:11:50 GMT
Man, that's pretty effed up. I can see not wanting people to carry around boot daggers or neck-knives, but such laws about swords in your own home?
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Post by Paul on Jun 19, 2011 3:04:20 GMT
Im still pretty new to all this and it took me a bit to get sorted before I ordered my first sword, still waiting for delivery hopefully just a few more weeks. Here is a bit more info on the legal stuff; www.swordcollectorsguild.org.au/ ... legal-talk “ Legal Talk Information Provided by: Victoria Police Licensing Services Division 14/10/2010 Subject to change without notice! Storage Requirements: The Prohibited Weapon/s owned or possessed under this Chief Commissioner’s Approval or Governor in Council Exemption must be stored in the following manner: Weapons other than Blow Guns should be stored in a locked cupboard, cabinet or safe of sturdy construction, and if glass fronted, the glass will be a minimum thickness of 5 millimetres. If the mass weight is less than 150 kg’s it shall be affixed to either the frame of the floor or wall (where applicable) so as to prevent easy removal. Wood screws and the like are not acceptable but ramset/dyna bolts are sufficient. The locks fitted to these receptacles shall be of sturdy construction. Padlocks shall have shanks of hardened steel. Blow Guns may be on open display within the applicant’s home, but both ends of the device must be sealed and all darts surrendered. Body Armour must be stored in a safe and secure manner. Swords must be stored in a manner calculated to ensure that the sword: 1. is not readily accessible to a person other than the person seeking to rely on the exemption; 2. is not available for possession, carriage or use by a person who is not themselves a holder of an approval issued by the Chief Commissioner of Police or who does not fall within another class of exempt persons. -New Information on Swords- Ensuring that the weapons storage facility is ‘not readily accessible’ and/ or 'not available’ simply means that all reasonable measures have been taken to make sure that the weapon is secured in a manner which ensures that an unauthorised person is unable to remove the weapon. For example, a sword is considered ‘not readily accessible’ or 'not available’ if it is bolted to the wall, or locked in a glass cabinet, thereby preventing an unauthorised person gaining possession of the weapon. Should you have any further queries please email licensingservices@police.vic.gov.au! General Category Crossbows must be stored in a safe and secure manner (a) stored in a manner calculated to ensure that the crossbow is not readily accessible to a person other than the person seeking to rely on the exemption; i) fitted with a trigger lock and the keys stored in a separate place; or ii) stored with a cable lock through the footclaw and connected to the string; or iii) stored in the unstrung condition with the prod/bow assembly demounted from the stock (where possible); (b) ensuring that the crossbow is not available for possession, carriage or use by a person who is not themselves a holder of an approval issued by the Chief Commissioner of Police or who does not fall within another class of exempt persons. Please refer to Schedule 4 of the Firearms Act for storage requirements relevant to the category of firearms the individuals have been licence for. Should you have any further queries please contact the relevant police division from your state. Licensing Services Division Email: licensingservices@police.vic.gov.au!Telephone: 1300 651 645 Postal: GPO Box 2807 Melbourne VIC 3001 “
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 5:53:30 GMT
Welcome to the forum, bro. As a fellow "colonial" I feel for your issues with the laws of the land, although Canada seems to be a bit more lax in the historical weapons department. Just a thought:
"and for the knowledge of self defense (and making my enemies pay)"
Whether you choose to exact the price yourself or not, your enemies will always pay. Such is the way of those with shadowed hearts. The erosion of their hearts is judgement in itself.
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Post by HouShe on Jun 23, 2011 4:37:55 GMT
Having lived in Victoria for over 15 years, I feel your pain. I can never move home again without a ton of hassles with licencing. The best bet is to find one of the authorised groups and become a member. Individual licences are expensive, expire after three years and if I remember correctly are PER sword. That sort of upkeep is horrible.
That said, if you're at all interested in Chinese Martial Arts. There's a very, very talented Chen Master in Burwood. I trained under him for my last six months in Victoria (the only time I actually lived near Melbourne) who also teaches weapons. Do that, join the Australian Tai Chi Association (Last I checked they were the cheapest group) and you'll be covered. If you're purely interested in Euro weapons, I'm not sure which groups you'll have to join. But that said, just be patient, wait until you're 18 (makes it much easier) and whatever you do, DON'T get a Katana. Kats were the reason why the law was put in place the first time around, and cops down there look at anyone with one as though they're the enemy.
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Post by HouShe on Jun 23, 2011 4:38:12 GMT
Or, just move to Sydney. Like I did.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 19:56:39 GMT
Well, for a reply to your first post, I'll extend my reply to other beginners and newbies, like myself: Join some medieval reenactment society if you like that, or, like I did, join a dojo that specializes in what you want to aspire to. Learn all you can about the subject you want to study, time and spare funds permitting. Dedication is definitely a plus.
--Lee
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