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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 20:04:17 GMT
Hi, I'm looking for some info on two swords I have. The look like calvery swords, but I don't really know. The only mark I could find was Feltser on the scabbord of one of them. Here are the pics:    thanks guys  |
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jun 7, 2011 14:13:26 GMT
This is getting to sound repetitive whenever one of these 19th-century-military-swords threads show up...  Anyway, Dave Kelly is the resident expert on military swords from this period, check with him via PM to bring this thread to his attention whenever he has time. Don't think we have anybody else on this board with a similar level of 'street cred' as it goes. For example, all I can guess is that they're possibly German, and that's about it... If you don't have any luck with that, Sword Forum International is probably a somewhat better resource-- it's been around longer and has more members who are at a higher level of knowledge on average, I think. Not that we're any slouches around here, it's a matter of numberical superiority really. Anyway, good luck, and welcome here! |
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Post by Greg on Jun 7, 2011 14:21:44 GMT
I have also had great luck with posting a "help me ID" thread on myaroury.com
Whatever they turn out to be, you sure have some beautiful pieces there. I especially like the shorter of the two.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 7, 2011 17:41:52 GMT
Hi: You have both the officer and enlisted version of the Austrian Cavalry Saber M1904. ( Officer is the shorter more elaborate hilt ). Don't have a listing for Austrian makers marks so I don't know if Feltzer was a maker or a distirbutor. Here are two Austrian Cav types. The 1904 is on the left or bottom. Its distinguished by the additional bow in the guard to further protect the back hand.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2011 22:25:11 GMT
Thanks for the welcomes! Greg, The shorter one does have the nicer shield, but the blade on the longer one is more interesting. It has a double edge to it(not sure if there is a name for that, still new to this. :oops: )  Dave, Thanks for all the info! They are going on display soon in my house, and now I'll be able to tell people what they are when they ask  |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 7, 2011 23:58:09 GMT
Dave, Thanks for all the info! They are going on display soon in my house, and now I'll be able to tell people what they are when they ask You're welcome.
The blade style is refered to as "pipebacked" or "quillbacked" the blade style was believed to be the creation of Robert Prosser of England at the beginning of the 19th Century. It migrated to Solingen GE after S&K agents opened shop in England. Never really caught on in England, but was very popular in German States.
The "back blade is the short side of the foible; the pointy end of the blade  . It exists to support back sweeping slashes and to support thrusts. German fencing philosophy gave priority to the cut which the pipeback favored.
I have planned to do a short spread on pipeback cavalry sabers, but have been derailed because Cold Steel has announced pre order on their versions of the German 1852 and Austrian 1904 due this year, but to date there is no sign the will become available much before the middle of the third quarter. :roll: |
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. It exists to support back sweeping slashes and to support thrusts. German fencing philosophy gave priority to the cut which the pipeback favored. 
