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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 2:28:54 GMT
ok so i have a peice of what i think is high carbon steel if not plain iron...anywho this is what it looked like after my first attempt to just sharpen it second attempt to refine it so now im on my third attempt and im not sure how i should do it but i want to to make it like a strait bladed (short) wak using my new angle grinder. but im not sure what a safe length to make the tang (i do plan to use this for light cutting) i plan to make a tsuka for it but only if it looks nice will i make a saya. ok next question i wanna get into serious knife and possibly sword making and i guess the first thing i will need is a forge of some kind...we have these stone square blocks that i think i can build a forge out of but i dont know if it will work (for unknown reasons). so in other words does a forge need anything special on the inside?or could i just stack these brick-like stones up and stuff a heap of charcoal inside and keep it hot with a fan. final question ANVILS i would like to move up from grinding to forging blades eventually but reguardless i need a forge for heat treating at the least. so what do u guys use? i mean i saw slav's blade and its beautiful but did he use an anvil for the folding? thx for ur guys help!!!
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Post by Dan Davis on Mar 26, 2008 11:49:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 13:39:01 GMT
Wow thanks for the link, dan davis. I think i'm gonna buy a baby anvil as i'm still a beginner. +1
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Post by Dan Davis on Mar 26, 2008 15:22:17 GMT
Nope. Get the biggest you can afford. Your elbow and shoulder will thank you later.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Mar 27, 2008 21:15:49 GMT
If you are seriously serious about getting into SERIOUS blademaking, do some SERIOUS studying. I recommend books like "step by step knifemaking" by David Boye and The Complete Bladesmith by Jim Hrisoulas. You will also want to read books on other aspects of blacksmithing. May I recommend The complete blacksmith by Lorelei Sims and The art of blacksmithing by Alex Bealer.
Also, there is no substitute for practical experience. You will feel like you have wasted your money if you invest in a forge and anvil, then repeatedly turn out "knives" that look more like cowpats or pretzels. Take some courses in Blacksmithing, if available in your area. I attended a course in blacksmithing, back in December, and found the experience it afforded invaluable.
If you can't be bothered to do these things, the lack of rewarding results will quickly make you feel like it wasnt worth the effort.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 21:46:16 GMT
ouch take a shot at me why dont ya...well im waiting on a responce from a class in my area and when i say serious i mean doing the kind of stuff slavia is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 2:00:57 GMT
ouch take a shot at me why dont ya...well im waiting on a responce from a class in my area and when i say serious i mean doing the kind of stuff slavia is doing. Do you and can you accept constructive criticism? If not you may as well find another hobby then LOL. What Matt said rings true, RESEARCH is one of the best tools in the shop, coupled with practice and a class or two will get you going.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 2:19:47 GMT
i was joking i know i need to learn before i just do it. like i said im waiting on a responce for a class thats in my area. consider this all the annoying posts i put up here as light research
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Post by slav on Mar 28, 2008 2:19:57 GMT
They're right dark. Research and practice are what you need. I shat out many botched many blades before I finally got a good one. Matt was just stating the facts. Trust me, you'd rather hear it from him than experience it first hand. It really sucks to see hours of work and sweat go down the drain because of one little teeny careless mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 2:29:52 GMT
Looks like it's been chewed up pretty bad. What WAS it to begin with? Or is it just a random piece you found?
I'd guess plain structural steel. If it's tool steel, it's not HT'd, so it's not useful as a blade.
At first glance, I thought it was a normal production sword that a certain "Master(146.5*2)" got his hands on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 2:32:22 GMT
i never said i disagree i completly understand and accept that i know almost nothing and ill take all the help i can get from u guys. but hearing it from someone that i know is reliable and knows what they're talking about is better than searching for a website that is possibly written by someone that has no clue. so even tho i may joke i still listen to what u guys tell me and if u have any good sites i should check out i will. im not agianst research just trying to make sure my source is accurate.
oh and roller this was the very first piece of steel that i started working on. so yea it wasnt supposed to be good. trying to make it better tho
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 3:25:21 GMT
Also, asking questions is good but asking for things to be spoon fed without doing any research on your own get's a bit troublesome. GO out, read, you will learn the difference between the crap and gold soon enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 4:07:35 GMT
fair enough
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Mar 28, 2008 22:33:26 GMT
Sorry if that sounded like sniping, fella. I didnt mean it to sound that way.
What I SHOULD have said was, "If you DON't bother to do this" rather than "If you can't be bothered etc etc etc"
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