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Chinese Sword - Identification May 3, 2011 11:30:59 GMT

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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 11:30:59 GMT

I have just inherited a Chinese sword from my late grandfather and hope that someone maybe able to identify the type and give me some more details on the sword. Also if anyone has any suggestions on renovation or possible value..??
Apologises if this is in the wrong forum - please move to the correct one if required.

A bit of background to how my grandfather acquired the sword. He was in the Royal Navy and serving in China at the time of the Japanese invasion in the 1930s. His ship had a diver who was recovered a number of swords from a river where they had been thrown by the Chinese before capture(?) or so he believed. IIRC he said he paid the diver 1 shilling for the sword. I don't know how long it was in the water before being recovered.

Many thanks for any help.

John

Handle - 17.5cm
Circle diameter - 6.5cm
Blade width - 7.5cm at widest
Blade length - 55cm
Blade thickness - 4mm

MEversbergII Blank Group Posts: 1,303	Chinese Sword - Identification May 3, 2011 12:47:07 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by MEversbergII on May 3, 2011 12:47:07 GMT Military style dadao if the story checks out. They issued a number of these to Chinese troops in the second Sino-Japanese War. M.
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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Chinese Sword - Identification May 3, 2011 13:23:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 13:23:04 GMT Thanks for the reply. My grandfather was serving on HMS Medway and Titania from Oct 1936 to April 1939. Both of these were on the China station at the time so the dates check with the Second Sino - Japanese war.

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Chinese Sword - Identification May 4, 2011 5:19:22 GMT

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Post by MEversbergII on May 4, 2011 5:19:22 GMT

Yep, that would be likely a military grade dadao then. They churned a bunch of these out from the steel they gained when they tore up their own railroads to slow the IJA down. From what I've heard, they had issues producing enough weapons fast enough for the draftees / volunteers / replacements so they were handing these out. Apparently they'd engage IJA units with rifle fire to draw them into close terrain and then descend on them with these. Might have happened. Personally, I think these ended up becoming the defacto issue machete for clearing jungle growth.

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Chinese Sword - Identification May 4, 2011 18:08:06 GMT

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Post by Elheru Aran on May 4, 2011 18:08:06 GMT

I'd see about getting this professionally cleaned perhaps; you've got quite a bit of rust on that blade. Aside from this you definitely have a little bit of history sitting right here, if everything checks out. Don't necessarily take *our* word for it-- if you're serious about this item as an antique, establish provenance with copies of documents that prove where your grandfather and his ship were, the type of sword this is, a professional assessment, etc. A restoration would help with this-- there may be inscriptions on the blade or tang.

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Chinese Sword - Identification May 5, 2011 16:04:06 GMT

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Thanks for the replies. I am considering getting the sword restored properly and will go from there. Apart the family history side of how the sword was acquired, we have no paperwork or anything to show provenance.

Purely by chance, my wife was talking to a friend of hers this week and she mentioned this sword to her friend. Her friend said that her father has a sword as well....a bit of swapping descriptions etc and turns out her sword is almost identical to this one!

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