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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 13:54:14 GMT
Hello from France,
I'd like to buy my first Katana and I need some help: I was thinking of buying one from ebay seller tckruan88 or huawei-sword which from what I've read offer good katana...
So here is my questions:
- What do you think about "folded steel clay tempered" blade are they really better than "maru" clay tempered swords?
All other information usefull link to start ect... are wellcome
I'd also lie to know if anyone ahave info about the quality of the blade of ebay seller lyman1919
Thank you in advance
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on May 1, 2011 14:16:44 GMT
folded steel is actually weaker than monosteel. unless you like the LOOKS of the folded steel id go maru clayed
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 14:36:36 GMT
ok thank you, so there is no advantage with this kind of sword?
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Post by SeanF on May 1, 2011 14:46:19 GMT
Historically it was used to fold out impurities in the sword. Back in Fudal Japan steel was of poor quality and the technique increased performance greatly. Nowadays anyone can have access to high quality low impurity steel making it only relevant for reasons of tradition or aesthetics. So it is a question of how much value you place on those.
As it is more labor it also means more cost, so it usually isn't present on most lower end models. If you see two swords for the same price, one folded and one not, you know that he extra cost of the folding was made up somewhere else in the swords construction.
That said, the question is what do you want in your sword.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 15:18:20 GMT
ok, thank you for these infos, I think I'll pick a maru one.
And what about the soft steel core/hard steel around ?
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Post by Insane on May 1, 2011 15:27:25 GMT
For your first katana don't go with an ebay seller.
Just read some more on this forum and read some reviews about certain swords and vendors.
there are a lot of good vendors but much more bad vendors.
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Post by Hiroshi on May 1, 2011 15:31:24 GMT
 I believe you are refering to "Makuri" Again this is something that will add a bit of extra cost. With the steel that most smiths use today layering like this in not necessary. But it can product beautiful results. especially Soshukitae or Honsanmai. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 17:39:02 GMT
Ok so definitly Maru to start thank you everybody I was going to do something stupid
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Post by Curgan on May 1, 2011 21:39:51 GMT
I 'd go the sure way with my first purchase. A reputable company like Hanwei or Dynasty Forge would be a safe choice. A sword is more than the steel or the lamination. It's more of a combination of a multitude of factors and their good (or bad) execution.
Of course at the end of the day you get what you pay for...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 4:20:20 GMT
Yes I know that ebay seller aren't very good quality, buit I've read very good reviews about huawei-sword even on this forum; the other option is Munetoshi that I prefer, but I really don't like their mount and this an important part of the sword to :roll:
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Post by Maynar on May 2, 2011 5:26:37 GMT
First, how will you use this blade? Light cutting, medium cutting, or display? Second, what price range are you comfortable with? I have a folded blade from tckruan88, and two DH blades from Hua Wei. The folded blade is basically for display, but the fittings and wrap are very tight, no cracks in tsuka, and very sharp. I would cut light targets with it, but not often. I bought it because it looks great on the wall. $46 plus shipping. For a display piece, that's a good deal. The Hua Wei blades will make much better cutters, but the fittings and wrap need to be upgraded. Having better steel, better heat treating, the higher quality of these blades makes them worth the time and money IMHO. They were in the range of $230 plus shipping. New wrap and fittings will increase the cost, obviously, but I consider this to be good value. You can always buy a good set of koshirae and send them to Jacky at Hua Wei. They are happy to do customs in that fashion. Of course, you can always get good value out of the box with Hanwei or DF as well, without the extra step of customization. So it boils down to what you will do with the sword, and what price range you are comfortable with to achieve that end. Good luck, welcome, and I like your screen name.  |
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Post by Curgan on May 2, 2011 7:38:07 GMT
The issue with such companies is that you don't know what you' ll get as quality control is usualy poor. You might get lucky or you might don't. Munetoshi have been reported to have an issue with cracked tsuka. I don't know about the rest. And furthermore you don't know about the heat treatment, forging, quality of koshirae etc and since this will be your first sword -and thus are inexperienced with them ... yet- you might have a safety issue when cutting.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 16:08:14 GMT
Well I'm thinking to get one for more or less 250€ for now, for the use I'm not really sure that would be mainly a "wall hanger" but I d'like to be able to use it for cutting but not without having learned that art before or only light cutting...
I'd also like to work on the sword; maybe not my first but I'd like to learn how tu make my own tsuka...
Eventually is it possible to "repolish" the Jihada to make more dark (maybe using some kind of oxyde) or is it necessary to repolish the entire sword to achieve that?
Is it possible to buy customised saya somewhere? I really love wood grain and I'd like one with precious wood
Well I know these things aren't easy so I will take my time doing it little by little
Thank you for all your advice it help me a lot ^^
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Post by Maynar on May 3, 2011 1:42:10 GMT
Then I would definitely recommend Hua Wei. If you're going to customize it, their blades are excellent and would make a good foundation for a project. You can order the bare blade, or unwrapped tsuka if you want to get into the custom thing right away, and save some money by doing so. They offer many options.
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