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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 0:13:56 GMT
So... while practicing my forms and swings and such i noticed the tip of my blade is bent flat? im not sure how that happened but is there a way to bend it back or something? this is a very sad discovery for me  |
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Post by 14thforsaken on Apr 30, 2011 0:15:54 GMT
Without pictures it is hard to say. Sometimes the only thing you can do is file off the bent portion and reshape the tip. Again, I would need to see a picture to be more specific.
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 0:16:29 GMT
ill take one just a sec
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 0:24:43 GMT
sorry if there hard to see Attachments:
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 0:26:41 GMT
yeahhh i suck at adding pics lol
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Post by 14thforsaken on Apr 30, 2011 0:28:47 GMT
It looks fairly minor. I'd probably just take a metal file and file off the bent part and reshape the tip. I've had to do it before and its not that hard. Just be sure to take your time and not rush. Stop often and check it. You don't want to file off more than you have to. It always better to err of the side of not filing enough away as you can always remove it later, the reverse is not true. Once you have the bent part off you can carefully rework the tip using the file and whetstones. Again patience is the key.
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 0:35:15 GMT
Alright thanks man lol i was kinda bummed out about it but now that i know its an minor fix its not so bad. i have yet to buy whetstones yet and would any file work or is there a certain type i should use?
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Post by 14thforsaken on Apr 30, 2011 0:42:18 GMT
For rough shaping I just use a regular metal file you can get at any hardware store. I just like the flat files opposed to the cylindrical ones because it easier for me to work with a flat one. For the reshaping, you can start with the metal file and then use a regular whetstone, or you can buy an Arkansas stone ( better quality stones but more expensive) or even use sandpaper in progressively finer grits. Its more a case of what you are more comfortable with. Just remember with shaping the tip, you need to get all of the scratches out at each grit level before moving up. Basically if there are still scratches on the blade that 200 grit sandpaper isn't removing, use a lower grip. Once you have gotten all the scratches the same, you can move up in grit. I generally stop at 400-600 grit which is a satin like finish. You can up to 2500 if you like and get a nice mirror polish. Its a matter of personal taste. Feel free to pm me if you have any other questions.
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 1:07:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2011 1:38:43 GMT
The sharpening stone from trueswords can be bought here cheaper www.amazon.com/6-Fine-Arkansas-B ... 47&sr=8-18 Also check out the other sharpening stones. The file you need to repair the edge of a blade is a mill bastard cut file. |
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 2:09:24 GMT
Thanks iv got these added to a cart. One of my friends suggested trying to hammer it out with my brass hammer slowly. it seems unlikely but im gunna give it a shot later tonight
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Post by 14thforsaken on Apr 30, 2011 2:16:20 GMT
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Post by Elheru Aran on Apr 30, 2011 13:34:11 GMT
Not sure if this will be in time but as far as files go I suggest two things:
--Get the 'single cut' type, that only cut in one direction, and:
--Get a 'file card' or 'file cleaner'. It looks like a broad, flat wire-brush.
Why the two of these? A 'double cut' file that cuts both in the push and pull is useful, I agree... but it's a pain in the butt to clean when it gets clogged with metal! A single cut file, on the other hand, is much easier to clean, and as long as you remember to only push down when going in the right direction (usually away from you), it'll last MUCH longer. Trust me; the voice of bitter experience speaks here...
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 18:58:25 GMT
alright im checking around for metal files at hardware stores today. But the people that work there have little to know idea as to what there talking about. would a regular fine file work? or would i want to just order a diamond fine file online?
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 19:32:15 GMT
sorry i forgot about the bastard cut file, anyway i found that one and another one that seems interesting yet iffy at home depot in town. www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... ogId=10053 its listed as a blade handy file for sharpening and removing metal |
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Post by Elheru Aran on Apr 30, 2011 22:44:53 GMT
I work at Home Depot. In the same area as that file there should be both single cut and double cut. That one you linked is a double cut; look closer at it and you'll see the pattern is like X's, that's double cut. Single cut has a pattern like slashes-- ////
I usually go with a 10" file, but that 8" one might suit you better.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Apr 30, 2011 22:55:06 GMT
With metal files, a good way to clean them out is to use canned air that you use on computer and such. It does a good job of blowing all the little metal slivers out. Just remember to do it out side and DO NOT spray it towards you, spray the air away from you otherwise you get metal slivers embed all over you and possibly in your eyes. Voice of experience here, its not fun. Also you might want to consider using safety glasses when using the files, sometimes the slivers can get everywhere. I tend to err on the side of caution. I've learned the hard way metal in yours eyes HURTS.
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Post by Tyler on Apr 30, 2011 23:06:16 GMT
So i would want to get the single cut one of that? and that one over the mill bastard cut file?
And forsaken thanks for the tip ill be sure to avoid flying metal shards. they sound painful lol
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Post by 14thforsaken on May 1, 2011 0:54:56 GMT
If you're going to go to a Home Depot or a Lowe's you might want to look at getting some jeweler's files. They are much smaller and are easy to get in and out of small spaces. I have a 10" file I use for rough shaping and for the first pass at sharpening, and then I will use jewelers files in spots were I need more control or where I just want to touch up a small burr.
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Post by Elheru Aran on May 1, 2011 1:49:13 GMT
It's worth going for the better brand with files, even if it's more expensive. The generic ones (at Home Depot they go by the brand names Husky and General) just aren't really worth it-- they'll wear out more quickly so you have to buy replacements much sooner, while a good Nicholson bastard file will last much longer with regular cleaning. Your mileage will vary, though...
Jeweler files are a good idea if you do a lot of detail work, ie metal carving, or sharpening up small areas. Otherwise I find using a bastard file to just take off rough bevels and cleaning it up with sandpaper works fine.
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