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Caym Member Posts: 47	quick tsuka question Apr 28, 2011 7:44:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caym on Apr 28, 2011 7:44:39 GMT what modifications would be needed to change a tsuka made for panels in order to do a full wrap?

SanMarc Senior Forumite Posts: 3,193	quick tsuka question Apr 28, 2011 8:14:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by SanMarc on Apr 28, 2011 8:14:19 GMT You would have to shave the lip down where the panel would go, so over all the Tsuska would be smooth.....SanMarc.
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Lobster Hunter Member Posts: 724	quick tsuka question Apr 28, 2011 8:18:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Lobster Hunter on Apr 28, 2011 8:18:05 GMT Option 2 would be to glue on some strips of wood to fill the "trenches".

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quick tsuka question Apr 28, 2011 8:21:19 GMT

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Post by Ichiban on Apr 28, 2011 8:21:19 GMT

You would have to shave off enough wood to fit the samegawa or else you'll end up with a bulky tsuka. Usually this is done by measuring the height of the nodes and removing wood accordingly. But it depends on the condition of the tsuka, if it were a standard production tsuka I wouldn't do it. Removing wood may weaken the construction, especially on the ha and mune side, and incorrect fitted samegawa may not strengthen it enough to make up for the lost structure. I prefer to carve a new tsuka if it is to be fitted with a full wrap.

Caym Member Posts: 47	quick tsuka question Apr 29, 2011 1:31:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caym on Apr 29, 2011 1:31:24 GMT would wood putty work to fill in the slots?

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quick tsuka question Apr 29, 2011 1:42:37 GMT

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Post by Lobster Hunter on Apr 29, 2011 1:42:37 GMT

I've never worked with wood putty. I guess it would work. After it dries, you could sand down the putty and the whole tsuka core a bit (just a bit), unless you want a thicker finished tsuka. Is the stuff as hard and resilient as actual wood? I don't know.

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quick tsuka question Apr 29, 2011 3:29:38 GMT

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Post by ghost on Apr 29, 2011 3:29:38 GMT

Wood putty won't work. It is great for small dents and nicks (just a sawdust mix w/ wood glue) The old divot areas are too large and too thin for it to be stable. Masking it over with new samegawa would not be a good idea. One drop or bump and the stuff would slough right off. The full rewrap would hold it (fragments of the wood putty) but the only thing adhering it would be the ha/mune sides. I don't think it'll be very safe.

Why not sand the old nodes down a bit and full wrap right on top? Or wood glue in some gauze (KC style) to get a flush tsuka?
***^I'm not sure about the viability of these alternatives by the way. It may still end up too bulky*** Hopefully some of the other guys will give some good hints on how to skirt around carving a new tsuka core.

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Adrian Jordan Member Retired Global Moderator Posts: 11,830	quick tsuka question Apr 29, 2011 3:32:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Adrian Jordan on Apr 29, 2011 3:32:47 GMT I'd ask frankthebunny or SworLord, they'd probably know best.
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quick tsuka question Apr 29, 2011 4:02:04 GMT

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Post by jeimuzu on Apr 29, 2011 4:02:04 GMT

Ill be honest, carving a new tsuka is probably the best idea. I know it sounds like alot of work but you can shape the tsuka to whatever style you like, how thick you want it, and you can do a full samegawa wrap. Not only that but the wood would be a better quality ( use poplar) and would be MUCH BETTER than the stock tsuka. Let alone it would fit to the nakago and you could use one mekugi instead of the infamous two mekugi tsuka's.

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Caym Member Posts: 47	quick tsuka question May 1, 2011 1:24:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caym on May 1, 2011 1:24:39 GMT so I ended up just carving it down and have come to the realization that the one it came with was either really thick or I have really tiny hands .... Im leaning towards a little of both

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