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Post by armchairwarrior on Apr 24, 2011 6:23:40 GMT
www.medievalcollectibles.com/p-2 ... tlass.aspx Anybody ever see this thing/handle it before? It looks like it'd be a fun machete sort of thing... no manufacturer info, or the type of steel. It looks like it has a little brother too: www.medievalcollectibles.com/p-2 ... knife.aspx They could either be nifty backyard bushwhackers/utility blades, or total pieces of crap. If anyone knows either way please share!
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Post by Razor on Apr 24, 2011 6:33:09 GMT
It's a Dussack. It's from Ritter of Steel
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Post by Elheru Aran on Apr 24, 2011 21:04:17 GMT
Ritter Steel, to be precise; not 'Ritter of Steel' (sorry, Razor, just setting things straight... blame my OCD).
Dussacks come from, I think, late-medieval or renaissance Europe. The one-piece ones are rather interesting, and there's at least one fight book about how to use them. Ritter Steel's swords are all right, from what I understand, so this should probably be an okay sword, don't know about machete.
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Post by armchairwarrior on Apr 24, 2011 23:59:09 GMT
I guess it is historical after all then. I put it here because I wasn't really sure where else to put it.
Did some google-fu on it, and I guess it's .25in thick. It would probably need some real re-profiling work, unless it's a real cutter out of the box. It just seems like it would be a real bottle bouncer.
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Post by bleachsword on Apr 25, 2011 7:30:10 GMT
What kind of price is on that? If it is cheep it would make a great project blade.
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Post by MOK on Apr 25, 2011 8:06:06 GMT
A sort of dussack, yeah. These originated as wasters for messer practice sometime early in the 16th Century, and quickly developed into a weapon of their own. On historical specimens the hilt typically consists of one solid loop; this particular design is decidedly modern, borrowed from those ahistorical "viking women's knives" sold at every renfair.
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Post by Anders on May 17, 2011 21:33:21 GMT
The "woman's knife" in question: We got to try making them back when I did blacksmithing. It's actually a lot trickier then one might think.
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Post by birdman on Jun 18, 2011 23:46:17 GMT
That hilt design would suck in a fight, I should think - too easy for an opponent's blade to slide down your own blade in a hard strike, into the gap between the blade and guard, and slice your fingers off. The solid one Windlass used to make was a much better design.
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Post by birdman on Aug 12, 2012 3:44:39 GMT
Sorry to resurrect a "zombie" thread, but I was doing some searching on the 'net today, and found out that this style of sword was once VERY common in 16th century Bohemia. Ran across a website with several photos of originals, one of which looks almost exactly like the Ritter Steel version: hemaalliance.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1362&start=20So, not based on the "Viking woman's knife" after all. I might have to buy one - or even make one, once I make a new forge (or use my uncle's gas forge some time...)
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Post by MOK on Aug 12, 2012 16:27:54 GMT
Huh. Yeah, seems I was wrong. Now how come I've never come across these things before? No fair!
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Post by K. Vander Linde on Aug 22, 2012 2:23:45 GMT
I made a few of those when i had a forge available to me(5 years ago) . thats before i even ever saw one me and my best friend sat down looked at our raw material and came up with a pattern. turns out they were historical :lol: ya after we found this pattern type we did some research, this desinge is every where :!: the vikings had it the Germanics, Celts, and Romans had it and even the Slavs, as far as early EU is concerned. they also aperently can be found in Africa and western Asia. as far as cutting ability they work really great depending on profile. never handler that one specificly but would be a easy fix if it was a botched cutter. and they do work really great a macheties..... mind you my curent machetie use has been a colins and a majorski bible falchion, :roll: . so can be hit or miss but is usualy very comphortable in handeling even when it cant cut worth a darn.
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Post by birdman on Sept 7, 2012 0:10:54 GMT
Just talked to my uncle, who is a farrier, today, and he said that as long as he is home at the time I can use his coal forge (the gas forge is having orifice problems due to mud daubers). So maybe some time before the weather gets cold I'll try making one of these out of some leaf-spring material.
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