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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 16:51:27 GMT
hello to all,, i hope this is the right place for this question, what is better? peened or threaded hilts?i know that threaded allows u to refit a cracked handle and such , but do peened ones come loose that much? and if it did how could it be fixed?
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Post by rammstein on Jan 27, 2008 17:04:07 GMT
Both are very strong if done correctly. Treaded hilts often are found on cheap swords and are hence looked at as inferior, but in reality, they can be done very well. Gus Trim uses threaded hilts on his swords and they are probably some of the best performance swords out there.
Peened hilts are more historically accurate, and that's great on sword where you know the quality is great, but on lower end swords, I prefer threaded hilts just so you can make modifications if something goes wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 17:36:02 GMT
As for tightening a loose peened hilt: bjorn.foxtail.nu/bonk_eng.htmI also prefer a threaded hilt on lower end swords. It's much easier to dissasemble as fill the hilt with epoxy, which results in a tighter assembly then you ever find elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 17:59:08 GMT
Peened all the way!
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 27, 2008 18:16:06 GMT
I prefer threaded. I always modify my stuff, like my guitars or clothes. I also recently added a shoulder strap and tassel on my masahiro katana. I like to make things different and unique, a peened handle would make that hard for me.
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Post by themaster293 on Jan 27, 2008 19:41:54 GMT
I prefer threaded. Peened are okay, but if they get loose it is harder than just tightening a nut.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 27, 2008 19:45:08 GMT
I have a threaded Gen2 irish with a loose crossguard and try as I might, I have never been able to tighten it I'd prefer a peened one, cos if it came loose I could just bash it with a hammer. Hey Sam, do you hot or cold peen your blade's tangs?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 20:07:22 GMT
The problem with threaded tangs is, your pommels need to be symmetricl all around, if they are a wheel and you tighten it it put's the wheel off of center. With the nuts though that is not a problem. To me threading is a bit like cheating, your parts do not have to fit as tight as peened, cause you can torque down the nut and squish it all together, which is why so many low end and even medum end companies use threqaded tangs.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 27, 2008 20:11:47 GMT
Albion don't half crap on about their hot-peened tangs. Do they really have THAT much of an advantage in staying tight? Glued on handle scales seem a bit dodgy to me. I intend to hot-peen my own sword-project, though.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 27, 2008 20:19:28 GMT
Albions cannot phsyically loosen.
The handle handle doesn't stay on because it's glued, it stays on because it's custom fitted to each tang leaving not even a tenth of a millimeter of room between the wood and the steel in any part. The crossguard is literally wedged into place and the hole is cut out specifically for each sword so that steel meets steel at every part - unlike windlass which just uses a compression fit to keep everything on. Finally the pommel is beautifully peened over that entire rock solid hilt assemble. The only way to loosen any component of that is to literally destroy the hilt or degrade the metal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2008 20:58:08 GMT
Albion don't half crap on about their hot-peened tangs. Do they really have THAT much of an advantage in staying tight? Glued on handle scales seem a bit dodgy to me. I intend to hot-peen my own sword-project, though. Do not underestimate glue, almost any hilt construction requires glue, even if you use a solid block of wood with the tang burned thorugh then the pommel peened on behind that. Albion has by far the best construction methods of any production sword out there. The sandwhiched wood with leather glued over that, with both the guard pressed on and pommel pressed then peened on is DAMN sturdy. Never EVER heard of any albion ever coming loose.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 27, 2008 21:34:49 GMT
Yep, seemed pretty clever. That's why I chose that method for that sword I'm having machined. I'm even having it machined in the same way. I hope they arent going to sue me for it!
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