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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2008 15:19:28 GMT
Got it, not enough transtional pearlite dispersion towards the ha, I would imagine. (In other words 5160 does not easily facilitate ashi?) Sort of, the 5160 deep hardens so well and quickly, that despite the clay the hardening goes right up under it.
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Post by slav on Jan 18, 2008 15:20:30 GMT
Oh! That's good to hear about the naginata. As long as you can avoid 5160 difficulties.
I can't wait, sam!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2008 15:34:12 GMT
You can get a hamon, a smoky one but still get one, you just have to apply the clay....creatively:). Also, a good little bit of advice i heard from Kevin Cashen was, clay can act two ways as an insulator against the cooling, and as an insulator against the heating! So you can use it to great effect and slow down the cooling of the spine and get a hamon, or you can insulate the spine from heating up to past critical and only have the edge hot and get a hamon the same way. Sam, That fake-looking hamon is exactly why I am not a big fan of the modern hadori polish in the first place. I prefer the older sashikomi togi form even though the hamon does not show up nearly as brightly. I like Sashikomi much better, a bit more personality, Kesho has a classy look but looks rather blurred.
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Post by slav on Jan 18, 2008 15:37:02 GMT
Right! Good point. I'll remember that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2008 15:40:09 GMT
Sam, That fake-looking hamon is exactly why I am not a big fan of the modern hadori polish in the first place. I prefer the older sashikomi togi form even though the hamon does not show up nearly as brightly. I like Sashikomi much better, a bit more personality, Kesho has a classy look but looks rather blurred.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2008 18:06:36 GMT
i have faith in sam's hamon-obtaining abilities...i saw him make a little "kitchen cleaver" with a hamon on it once looks good sam, keep it up, really want to see something double edged and mirror polished out of you...please?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 4:35:52 GMT
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 21, 2008 14:37:33 GMT
A hamon on a kitchen cleaver?! You should sell them. I'd buy one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 15:35:01 GMT
yeah matt, he should. unfortunately the one i speak of imparticular developed a hairline crack...otherwise sam was gonna give it to me to polish and mount. damn!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 4:51:37 GMT
yeah matt, he should. unfortunately the one i speak of imparticular developed a hairline crack...otherwise sam was gonna give it to me to polish and mount. damn! HAHA that thing cracked all over! Due to the way too hot steel and way too cold water factors:D. I got it all worked out now, quenched a W1 and 1095 tanto and knife today in water no PROBLEMO.
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Post by slav on Jan 23, 2008 5:08:11 GMT
Let's see em!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 5:39:05 GMT
I Ht'd the tanto and the W1 knife I had today, along with a bunch of hammer heads, everything went smoothly, everything survived. I'll shoot some pictures once they have been roughly polished with an etch for the hamon.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 23, 2008 7:55:08 GMT
yeah matt, he should. unfortunately the one i speak of imparticular developed a hairline crack...otherwise sam was gonna give it to me to polish and mount. damn! HAHA that thing cracked all over! Due to the way too hot steel and way too cold water factors:D. I got it all worked out now, quenched a W1 and 1095 tanto and knife today in water no PROBLEMO. Really, did you go snow style like Conans Father? What temp did you quench the cracked one at? I'm lucky here I guess coz its 32C everyday so my oil doesn't get cold.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:43:15 GMT
it was just cold ass plain water, and the steel was too hot. NO NOT IN SNOW ONLY WATER.
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Post by slav on Jan 23, 2008 15:55:15 GMT
It's really cold here in Kentucky, so I can imagine how bitter it must be there. Hell, Sam you could probably air-quench! (j/k)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 16:34:27 GMT
This was a while ago, the heat treating i did yesterday was in nice warm salt/soap water.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 23, 2008 19:58:08 GMT
Your own 'Brine' mix?
Isnt true Brine some really specific concentration of salt in water?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 21:44:08 GMT
Your own 'Brine' mix? Isnt true Brine some really specific concentration of salt in water? Haha kind of. Brine works on the simple fact of, when you put hot steel in it, the water will instantly evaporate and form a vapor jacket(remember those?), well the salt in the water evaporates and clings to the steel giving the water nucleation points at which to grab onto the steel and cool it quicker. The scientific formula for brine is 10% salt to 90% water. More is not really doing anything. I add a little bit of soap to break the surface tension of the water also. This is the first time i have tried this, and it seems to work well, but i have nothing other than personal expeirience to back that up:D.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Jan 24, 2008 11:10:10 GMT
That's a great idea!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2008 11:18:05 GMT
VERY SWEET blades Sam! Wish I had that kind of talent/skill
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