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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2011 11:40:40 GMT
I'm helping a friend's family ID his collection. He didn't keep any written records. s254.photobucket.com/albums/hh11 ... rysBlades/ The French saber is marked Chatellerault,but I can't ID the model. The short straight sword appears to be 19th century Chinese, but may be Japanese. The 1917 saber blade (or Swedish predecessor) has an odd hilt. The first one pictured I have no idea. German blade, but probably rehilted. I think the bowie blade is welded onto a Krag bayonet. The cut down saber knife is probably Swedish. The D guard bowie is 1860-1900 estimated. The other items are likely WWI improv. Anyone got any clarifying info on any of them? The subalbum "Identified" has some others. |
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Post by tburred on Mar 16, 2011 18:21:31 GMT
The French saber looks like a South American contract piece.
I think there is one on on evilbay right now that states it was for Brazil.
can't help with the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2011 18:30:34 GMT
The French did do a lot of contract stuff, and still do. I'll look for that. Thanks.
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Post by SanMarc on Mar 24, 2011 23:03:53 GMT
Looks like a lot of mix and match, that happened a lot to war souvenirs..............SanMarc.
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Post by SanMarc on Mar 24, 2011 23:22:15 GMT
So after looking at the pics again here is my opinion.
Saber, pretty close to stock, but hasn't done well over the years as to the Handel wrap.
Second pic, nice custom Bowie.
Third Modified Bayonet.
Fourth Saber, modified Dutch Hanger.
Fifth Modified Bayonet, perhaps made into a Dress Dagger?
Sixth D Guard Bowie modified into Bayonet.
Seventh NICE D guard Bowie.
Eighth Japanese or Chinese Artillery Sword made after the french pattern.
Hope that helps some......SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 23:37:29 GMT
The saber is an Indian fake, we've decided. No marks. Peened hilt but nothing like an historical one.
Second one isn't a bowie, it's a cut down trowel, but I don't know if it's wartime--probably not. Looks modern. Not sure what it's for, either.
3rd is definitely a Lebel bayonet hilt with what looks like a epee blade cut to fit.
The cutlass appears to be a 1917 rehilted, possibly WWII as a machete, but I'm not positive.
The fifth is a Swedish saber cut down to a trench knife.
6th is a bowie blade brazed onto a Krag bayonet hilt, but I don't know if it's wartime or modern (probably).
7th is a nice D guard, couldn't date it. Sold for $250
Eighth is Chinese, and I've heard 1950s, but do you have any further info?
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Post by SanMarc on Mar 25, 2011 0:25:58 GMT
You would have to ask Dave, he is the resident Expert on letter Military things...SanMarc.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 25, 2011 7:06:22 GMT
Silly me. I didn't think to actually open the folder with the rest of the pics. Duh.
Pic 2 & 3: French Export 1895 for the CHILEAN Army. ebayers keep screwing this up.
P4&5: French 1822/1882 Cav Saber (33.5 inches is light, 35 in is dragoon, 36 inches is an 1822 pure )
Pic 30 Brit 1908 Enlisted Cav Saber
Pic 33 Prussian 1889 Infantry Officer Degen. I'd have to recheck the seal as to whether or not it's Prussian or another state.
Pic 36 German WWII. Don't know these.
Pic 37: US Cav M1913 from Springfield Armory
Pic 38 US Cav M1913 from subcontractor ( Got it written down in my review on the M1913 but can't remember what LF&C is off the top of my head. )
Pic 39 Don't know anything about Shasquas. They're as ubiquitous as AK47s.
Pic 45 These are Spanish M1907 Puerto Seguro sabers. The color scheme changed about every ten production years, I can't remember which edition is which.
Pic 46 US M1860 contract saber. The 1864 production date means civil war artifact. Instant price markup.
Pic 49 is an Army bandsman sword.
Pic 54 German WWI artilleymans saber.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 13:48:54 GMT
Most of the stuff in the Identified folder has been identified, but I do welcome corrections.
I may have to keep the Chilean 1895, since it matches my beautifully grained and almost matching Chilean 1895 carbine and bayonet.
LF & C is Landers, Frary and Clark
I don't think #49 (now 50) is a bandsman's sword. I think it's a pattern 1840 NCO sword. They are similar, but the bandsman sword is more elaborate. This also has a wartime date.
54 is an 1895 Prussian pattern used through WWI. The blade is in great shape.
The front gallery has the few items completely un IDed yet.
Several of these have been sold, others are still available.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2011 15:35:41 GMT
Got most of them so far. There's still that funky-looking cutlass conversion, and just added this:    It looks like one of the prototype Krag bowie blades, but it's crosscut sawbacked. Anyone recognize it? |
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