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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 0:40:22 GMT
Greetings
I am researching the purchase of a 3rd Crusade Ceremonial Sword. It will be donated to an organisation for ceremonial (dubbing) and display purposes. Because it is unlikely to receive regular maintenance (oiling) I am looking at a stainless steel sword. Varieties not suitable include Masonic, Catholic Kings and Templars. The sword should be comfortably handled by non athletic persons, single handled. i.e ~< 3ibs.. Swords under consideration include Art Gladius Crusader Sword (I have doubts about the authenticity of the pommel) and the Arming Sword.
I would appreciate advice and suggestions from the Forum
Thanks
Trevor
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 2:13:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 2:21:12 GMT
Thanks A fine sword except not in stainless steel?
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 2:37:34 GMT
Doh! sorry about that
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Post by Sir Tre on Mar 13, 2011 3:58:09 GMT
budk.com/Swords/The-Lord-of-the- ... uril-Sword budk.com/Swords/Knights-Emerald-Sword has false edge budk.com/Swords/The-Lord-of-the- ... ring-Sword if you want it for what i think you want it for... considering the persuasion of the author, the Lord of the Rings swords might work... aka.. certain discussion not allowed on SBG lets just say the my "leader" is a Lord of the Rings fan and his favorite "passage of literature" is properly demonstrated by the whole armour that i have been purchasing him. all we have left is the greaves. he has the helmet, the sword, the shield, the girt, and the breast-plate. his daughter won a art contest, that allowed him to meet pres bush because of the photo she took, with the sword and shield... pointing at a certain book. if this isnt the reason that you want one.. still a good buy if you are not interested in functional as much as lack of necessity for maint. 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 4:26:27 GMT
Thanks. Lord of the Rings is excluded.
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Post by John Greybeard on Mar 13, 2011 4:50:01 GMT
Ahhhh, Sir - you still cruisin' that Bud-K habit??!?!! Sorry, just couldn't resist... hahahahahahahahaha
Actually, ol' Bud's a very good source for SS SLO's. That Knight's Emerald sword looks like a winner for the OP.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 4:53:00 GMT
I used to like Bud K unil they started falsely advertising almost every item they sell as functional
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Post by Sir Tre on Mar 13, 2011 5:38:37 GMT
for slo's it a superb source. actually tho my ikazuchi was purchased there.
my grandpa bought a nice piece of property by "junking". he took a rather large stump and made a wonderful table from it. needless to say... i know how to look at a junk pile and pick out something worthwhile.... a good talent to have shopping at budk. As for false advertisement... if you do good research... they wont fool you.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 13:00:34 GMT
they dont fool me, but seeing the product reviews scares me. i hear things like "chopped a few trees and its still sharp but it bent right where the handle goes on, meh i just bent it back and its ready to go!" with a sword that i KNOW is a rat tail tang because ive seen it dissassembled...just scares me. i get nightmares of the whirling helicopter blade of doom. maybe because i owned a "battle ready" sword of theirs years back and said helecopter of death visited my house. i swung it right out of the box and the blade when woooosh! clear across my yard and stuck in a pine tree...my dad was pissed, he loves his pine trees. Lol.
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Post by John Greybeard on Mar 13, 2011 16:24:46 GMT
Death to All Pine Trees!!! just kidding...
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 16:44:08 GMT
lol John, for that one i think you owe me a free PINE TREE themed tsuba fuchi kashira and habaki...... j/k lolz.
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Post by John Greybeard on Mar 13, 2011 17:33:46 GMT
Free the Pine Trees!!!
apologies to the OP...
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Mar 13, 2011 20:24:21 GMT
wow john. Lol.
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Post by Sir Tre on Mar 13, 2011 20:33:31 GMT
if you see something there that interest you and you have concerns... just contact mfg. that is what i do. i do not get anything from them unless it is something that i know is good thru my own research, and have contact mfg, etc, to find out if it is good. their product reviews are usually by acknowledgeable customers... as you pointed out.
but for a slo, it is a good resource. what i recently purchased there was a waist guard armor. i have purchased a shield and helmet, and slo sword all for gifts to the same person, who does not want functionality.
as for my real swordss, that i get at more reputable dealers, i do the same research nonetheless. when i bought a H/T blade, i took 3 months in research first. nothing personal to Tinker, nor the vendor, it is just something that i have found that makes for a wiser purchase.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 22:33:56 GMT
Pine trees or other activity are not on my agenda. How good or durable is "Renaissance Wax"? Given that it is recommended by the British Museum, and that the Sword I am looking for, is to spend significantly more time on display than being handled, no martial arts etc. Where does one find renaissance wax? Where can I find a review?
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Mar 13, 2011 23:06:54 GMT
I've heard some good things and some bad things about ren wax... I'd recommend Militec1 instead; invisible and just as good, if not better, protection. However, niether are required for a stainless steel sword that will not rust. Which swords are you interested in so far?  -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 23:40:12 GMT
Virtually every museum in the world uses Renaissance Wax on part of their collection. It's my go-to choice for any sword that I'm not currently using to cut. Using the same maintenance schedule as most museums (twice a year) I have swords that have been in the case for years that do not have a spot of corrosion on them. And you can use it on the blade, hilt, pommel, grip, and scabbard. Here's the US distributor: www.restorationproduct.com/ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2011 1:09:21 GMT
Thanks for the responses so far. The availability of products like Renaissance Wax and Militect opens the horizons in my research. Apart from Norman swords and 3rd Crusade swords in stainless, where are they? I am starting to look at candidates in non-sharpened 'real swords'. That said, I am looking for an authentic replica within the specified time line, is appropriate for ceremonial occasions involving dignitaries, is capable of being carried two-handed in procession covered by the scabbard, and being light enough to be handled in one hand by a non athletic person for short periods. That was a long sentence! I currently looking at some long swords. Again this sword will spend most of the time behind glass on display.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Mar 15, 2011 16:21:18 GMT
May I throw a suggestion out there... if time isn't an issue (ie, you can wait a few months), Hanwei sells a line of bare blades made by their Tinker line. The Norman is quite close to what would have been actually carried by most Crusaders, and the Early Medieval Single-Handed isn't very far off. If you want larger swords, the Great Sword of War is pretty accurate for a period cutting sword-- but it's quite large, to say the least. The Bastard is a nice blade, but both it and the Longsword aren't really period accurate.
It would be quite possible to purchase one of those blades, and then send it in to an artisan to customize as you would like. The only quibble about this is that it would take a fair time to complete, but if you're okay with that, I think this would be a great option for you to really have an unique sword.
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