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Post by Greg on Mar 8, 2011 18:20:52 GMT
Ok, so this Militec-1 stuff has been named the end all be all of corrosion protection. Unfortunately, it has only been named this by one of our forum members Sam H. He's been pushing this stuff ever since we were on the old forums and at first I was sceptical, but since the product is rather inexpensive anyway I went to their website to order some. Well, before I ordered, I emailed the company to get their opinion on if I should get the grease or the oil. Here was their reply: I had planned on purchasing the product anyway, but I think I'll wait until the sample gets here and share exactly what comes in the sample package. So if any of you are interested, their email is: militec@militec1.com!And the link to their retail store is: militec1.com/miva/merchant.mvc?S ... ory_Code=1 Keep in mind that when you look at tho's prices, it is the price SHIPPED. I basically looked at that and looked at the Rem Oil that I'd been using and found that I actually get a better deal with Militec. A thank you to Sam H for being the first advocate. I have a feeling that I'll be joining him on his soapbox rather soon.
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Post by Sam H on Mar 8, 2011 20:24:44 GMT
Hah! I'd forgotten about their free sample! In fact I thought they'd stopped giving out free samples a long time ago! That was how I got into that stuff - a buddy of mine advised me to get a free sample from them (which at the time was advertised on their website). I sent them an email with my address and sure enough a little bottle of oil and a little bottle of grease was on my doorstep within a week. I've been using that stuff and only that stuff since then.
EDIT: Oh yeah btw I ordered the 14oz bottle years ago for my swords. Honestly it looks like I'd just barely dipped into it. You only need a very little bit for an entire sword (katana). $12.50 USD shipped for this stuff and it lasts basically forever... but then I only have 2 swords and maybe a dozen or so knives right now... and all the knives are SS except for 4 so really I only have 6 blades that need this stuff.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Mar 8, 2011 20:29:11 GMT
It is great stuff. I use it on my firearms.
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Post by bleachsword on Mar 11, 2011 6:11:39 GMT
This stuff is great i mannaged to grease 16 swords just with what was on the cap
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Post by Sam H on Mar 11, 2011 15:40:16 GMT
Remember it doesn't need to be present in large quantities to work. Just a VERY light layer that's barely detectable will be sufficient. Don't over do it with the grease or you'll have the same problems you'd have with any other grease - build up and if you put the sword back in its scabbard with lots of grease on it that'll cause problems in the scabbard too.
Just use a minute amount and rub it in.
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Post by Greg on Mar 17, 2011 5:39:59 GMT
Just got in my free sample. It included:
1- 1/2fl oz bottle of grease 1- 1/2fl oz bottle of oil 1 pamphlet that I accidentally ripped when opening the envelope.
I was incredibly surprised to get 1/2 ounces of this stuff. I figured they'd sent a small little packet that would contain a few drops each. So far, I'm impressed. The pamphlet covers most of the same stuff on the web site, and the other paper that was inside gives instructions for use.
I think I'll go get some scrap metal, dab a little grease on one side then leave the other open to the elements and leave it submerged overnight to see the effects.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Mar 18, 2011 19:02:32 GMT
I got a sample as well, only 2-3 days after emailing them... I'll let you guys know what I think. -Slayer
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Post by SwordLord on Mar 21, 2011 14:12:59 GMT
My only concern is that militec-1 contains vinyl copolymers and would be very difficult to remove if you ever intend to have your sword polished. Maybe okay for low end production pieces but I wouldn't use it on high end modern or antique swords.
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Post by Sam H on Mar 21, 2011 15:28:52 GMT
That's possible however if you have a high end modern or antique sword wouldn't it be logical to apply militec-1 AFTER you've had the sword polished? As for a re-polish if you've used a high end modern to the point that its dull enough or scratched up enough to need a re-polish I would be willing to bet you've worn off the copolymers.
Antiques - well I wouldn't be cutting with an antique anyway unless it was perhaps a gunto. In that case the same applies for guntos in use as with modern high end swords.
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Post by SeanF on Apr 4, 2011 3:17:22 GMT
Did you ever go through with your tests Greg?
Also for those who have used it, how resistant to wiping off is it? I never have a problem with 3-in-1 rubbing off when cutting, but it comes off when I wipe off my blades prior to re-sheathing. All other solutions I have found that would be more resistant to water aren't any appreciably better against cloth. Just wondering how this holds up in that respect.
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Post by Greg on Apr 4, 2011 6:22:15 GMT
Actually, I never went through with the sumbergance test on just a stock piece of metal.
However, I used it to coat my AT1557 and have cut with it... 3 or 4 times since then making sure that I didn't reapply any oil/grease. So far, the grease appears to have bonded with the metal. I can't really see that sheen that I could when I first applied it, but I'm almost certain that I could leave water sitting on the blade overnight and it would be fine in the morning.
The Free sample is free and when my little tube of grease runs out, I intend to buy the big honking thing. I suppose I should go ahead and just grease up the rest of my swords, but some of them need their edges touched up, so I was going to wait until after I sharpened them all to apply the grease.
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Post by bleachsword on Apr 9, 2011 20:27:59 GMT
I bought the big tube an did a overnight test on a old putty knife which rusts easly the control side rusted badly and the side with the grease looked as if it did to untill i removed the grease to find out the grease just discolored and the metal underneath was fine will do this a few more times to prove it was not just a fluke
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Apr 10, 2011 4:19:52 GMT
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Post by Greg on Apr 11, 2011 14:58:20 GMT
I noticed the discoloration on a blade that I had treated and set aside.
At first I was kinda pissed when I saw it, but it then occurred to me that this was the same blade that I did some etching on, and I left the etching black. One side of the blade is as bright and shiny as ever, the other is kinda brownish. I think that the "bonding" that the grease does, bonded with the blackening and gave it that color. Today I'm gonna buff the blade and see if the grease has bonded.
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Post by Michaelc748 on May 12, 2011 20:31:10 GMT
Just got an e-mail for my free sample... should be here soon! thanks for the tip. Also, when do you use the grease vs. oil? I would assume oil for common use and grease if you are storing your blade away. Can someone confirm this thought?
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Post by Sam H on May 13, 2011 1:42:43 GMT
I use the grease on the swords. The oil is reserved for my firearms. On swords I put on a VERY light layer of grease, apply low heat (from a hair dryer) and wipe off. Then I re-apply another very light layer of grease and wipe off till I can barely feel it there. If I'm going to be using it right away I wipe it off till dry.
After cutting I sometimes do not have the time or inclination to clean the sword so I simply give the blade a quick swipe with a rag to dry off the majority of the moisture so as not to damage the saya then put it away. No cleaning, no scrubbing and no re-lubing. Sometimes a sword will sit that way for weeks even months before I go back to cleaning it and it'll be rust free.
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Post by chrisperoni on Dec 21, 2011 3:30:11 GMT
Just got my free sample- they will ship to Canada. I sent an email asking if they would and gave my address. No email reply from them though... but they shipped right to me no cost!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 21:06:55 GMT
I know this is a minority opinion, but this one reviewer says the grease gets a bit "gummy" after a couple of years www.midwayusa.com/product/195431 ... g-_-195431
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 18:20:31 GMT
Question; So would it be unwise to apply the grease if you were planning on getting the sword polished? Or is the concern just that you'd have to reapply it? Also, my ATrim has the fuller left blackened from the heat treat, would that cause an issue?
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