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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 11:54:34 GMT
Ok, kind of a pros and cons thing here, and also does anyone know the actual grip length? And if I were to buy it it would be sharpened with the upgraded scabbard. Overall value and quality as compared to triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=82 heres what ive got so far DSA: prettier sword(to me) scabbard and belt heavier and shorter worse edge peened(i personally am iffy on this, harder to fix if it does go bad) Atrim: maker seems to hold higher public regard far better edge longer and lighter 4" grip(would be a close fit for my hand) no scabbard/belt hex nut(iffy on this as well I am inclined to over tighten)
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Mar 2, 2011 13:24:42 GMT
Hey Raze.... I can just go ahead and say this; regardless of the personal differences between these swords, you're not comparing apples to oranges; you're compaing a 1982 Ford against a 2011 Ferrari. :shock: I've handled roughly a third of a dozen DSA's, and owned two of them, as well as handling and owning two Atrims. Trust me, if you can afford the 'Trim, and aren't unduly concerned with the 'OMGITSSOTOUGHITCANCHOPTHROUGHTHETANKSLOL!' effect ( :lol: ), don't even consider the DSA. It just can't compete. One is a decent sword that's pretty and has some extras. The other is a steller sword that will feel like a real sword when you pick it up, will perform like a real sword when you swing it through the air, and after a small amoutn of customization, probably won't look half bad either. But that's just my $0.02, take it as you will. Hope this helps! -Slayer SPELLING EDIT
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Post by Elheru Aran on Mar 2, 2011 14:48:06 GMT
Nutshell version: DSA if you want to have a sword that you can REALLY beat up and not worry too much about it. Also if you're looking to end up with arms like this guy... The Atrim for everything else; it's just a much more quality sword overall!
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Post by Major, Cory J on Mar 2, 2011 15:47:43 GMT
I am going to have to disagree slightly with the previous posts. DSA is working on the weight issue, I had a Black Knight and it handled VERY well. It cut GREAT and I loved its look. The new scabbards look awesome as does the upgrade belt option. The quality of steel is out of this world. They are HAND FORGED IN NORTH AMERICA (Montreal Quebec), and if you order it through SBG Store, you get a break on the price and FREE shipping within the states and Canada. It was my first sword and I am kicking myself in the @$$ every day for selling it.
Yes the A-Trims are good swords (not knocking them) but, the DSA is getting to be seriously overlooked and "cast aside".
Video of me, my father in law, and my DSA Black Knight few weeks after I got it.
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Post by Greg on Mar 2, 2011 18:45:27 GMT
Assuming we are talking about this sword: www.darksword-armory.com/1306.htmlThen you really don't have to worry to much about the weightyness to much. From looking at the pictures, it seems that there is more weight towards the hilt rather then spread through the blade. DSA's biggest obsitical right now is distal taper, but since this blade has ample profile taper, then it should make the blade feel a bit more agile. But in my opinion, ATrims are far superior in handling characteristics. Even if you asked Gus to make you the same typology as the DSA Knight, his would not only provide the same structural advantages, but would weight a little under a pound less. I suppose it all boils down to what you want. If you want a better looking sword, with the higher polish and overall complete package, then go with DSA. If you want a sword that will, in all likelihood, feel like it's floating in your hand, then go with an ATrim. Here would be the XIV Atrim that would likely fit the characteristics of the DSA: XIV.1: triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=82 There is also a XIV.2 and .3, but I believe that the .1 is more of a power house and the .2 and .3 feel lighter and more maneuverable. Chances are, this won't be the last sword you ever buy.
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Post by ghost on Mar 2, 2011 19:05:42 GMT
Whoa Raze. The Atrim is far more Beautiful hands down. Although the DSA comes with a mirror polish, there are numerous "waves" in the blade from leftover hammer blows. Since they are hand forge, you can really notice them up close. Also the fittings are very very hmm...unfinished. You have a lot of filing and sanding ahead of you if you want it to look good. I have the upgraded scabbard as well...remember it is not fitted individually to the blade. Therefore, if you shake the scabbard there will be a bit of rattling. (stuff some synthetic wool down in there) My experience is with the DSA black knight but in a different manner than Cory's. After 4 days of work, I still feel like it needs a lot more improvement. The fittings are massive and the blade is massive. If you have time to grind the blade and fittings down (and not ruin the heat treat on the blade) only then would you come close to a high performance blade. ![](http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180652_997021249297_3620547_51790810_444550_n.jpg) The dirty wood powder helps shows the un-evenless on the blade. IF it were me, the Atrim would be the way to go.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Mar 2, 2011 22:10:13 GMT
Get the Atrim if your planning on using the sword. DSA's main selling point is that they are tough. Well that is in comparison to stuff that was coming out of china and india in a mass produced manner (and even then the VA and H/T swords are plenty tough...so that doesn't really hold true anymore). When you compare a DSA to a gus blade, they aren't stronger, they are just heavier. However, since you said you like the look of the DSA better, if this sword is gonna be for looks and your not gonna be swing it around or learning how to use a sword, by all means get the sword that you like the looks of better.
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