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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2011 21:52:45 GMT
Hello everyone! I'm really glad to join this community, for the last couple of days I've been reading a lot about Japanese swords, which are a dream for since I was a kid. You guys seem to be the best source of information! Congratulations! So, I'm 32 years old, for now I'm living in Orlando Florida, but by the end of the year I'll be back to Brazil which is my original country. I'll start taking Kendo classes there, and I'm looking for a Katana to practice cuts and moves, the problem is I've never had one, so I don't have a clue what kind of size and weight I should get. Also I'd like to have a beautiful sword to use as part of my house's decoration. So it must be pretty and useful. I was looking at this set (with a Katana, Wakizashi and Tanto) here from Musashi Swords: www.musashiswords.com/shop/produ ... =11&page=1 But there's no further information (as the type of iron). Does anyone know about the quality of this set? Which other Katanas / Sets you guys recommend for a beginner like me, my price range is $ 150/200 (if can spend less even better) Cheers guys!
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Post by Hiroshi on Feb 26, 2011 22:41:45 GMT
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 26, 2011 22:52:12 GMT
Hello. I believe that this set is one of their 1045 carbon steel sets. You could probably cut very light targets like half-mats and foam pool noodles. They are lightweight and passably sharp. If your set on getting a set, then this is probably a good deal as you could spend a great deal more for not much better quality in your price range. If you want just one then for $150-$200 you can get a good quality sword. Any of Hanwei's Practical line can be had at paulchenhanweiswords.com for about $167 after shipping. Swordnarmory.com sells the Munetoshi T10 line, with several under $200. Roninkatana.com has the Dojo 1045 series for about $175. All of these are really head and shoulders above the Musashi line as far as performance and fit/finish and can be used as cutters and display pieces, but are all single swords.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Feb 27, 2011 0:47:06 GMT
Yeah... personally I wouldn't spend the money on getting more than one sword at a time. It's nice to get sets, but for a first, I'd get one good sword and not worry about the set until you've gotten the hang of swording.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Feb 27, 2011 1:48:43 GMT
i agree with Elheru on this. i bought a musashi sword and deff wasnt pleased with. i wudnt want 3
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Post by TomK on Feb 27, 2011 7:16:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 20:39:57 GMT
Hey guys thanks a lot, for the help and patience! First of all: Link is not working Anyway, I've checked every single katana you guys posted, and of course they seem to be perfect for all kinds of cuts. The only "problem" for me, is they look pretty much the same. non of them really got my attention in the sense of design and beauty. I know it might sound silly! It's weird but seems that just the cheap brands makes really beautiful swords as you guys can see here: www.trueswords.com/masahiro-fold ... -5524.html www.samuraisupply.com/store-prod ... 05763.html www.trueswords.com/musashi-1095- ... -4646.html www.trueswords.com/storm-shadow- ... -5462.html kultofathena.com/product.asp?ite ... %27s+Sword www.samuraisupply.com/store-prod ... 62118.html Is that hard to find a sword like these above, but with decent quality? The Musashi set I posted in terms of design, for me, is just perfect. I wouldn't mind pay even double price if the set has a decent quality (as all the rest of swords you guys posted) Another question, 1060 is always better than 1045?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 27, 2011 21:19:08 GMT
Almost always. 1045 is softer. If the 1060 has a terrible heat treatment it can be ruined, but that is really the only way a 1045 will outperform a 1060. The Roninkatana site has decent variety as far as looks go, you may find something there. I'm not sure about the sets.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 27, 2011 21:23:35 GMT
Paul here at the SBG sword store is selling a three piece set of Hanwei Raptors. As I understand it, these are some of the best quality, functional swords you can get. It is $429 and a steal at that price. There is also an international transaction fee, as he is in Australia. I don't know if they are visually to your taste or in your price range, but I just remembered them and thought I'd sail that out to you.
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Post by TomK on Feb 27, 2011 22:23:17 GMT
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Feb 27, 2011 22:25:38 GMT
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Post by TomK on Feb 28, 2011 0:33:57 GMT
yup the matsu. love that sword.
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Feb 28, 2011 3:48:18 GMT
I think Masahiro and Musashi both tailor more to the type of buyer who might buy a sword primarily for its decorative/collectible value than to the type who might be more interested in a sword for its functionality (for martial arts application, backyard cutting, practicing for zombie apocalypse... etc.). The swords linked above certainly have flashier styles than something like, say... a Hanwei Raptor, for example. They're supposed to. Their primary function is to look cool, not to meet the rigors of a JSA dojo. Now, I'm not suggesting that I think they're all terrible swords (that 1095 carbon steel Musashi looks like it might be a decent cutter, actually). My point is that you don't really know what something is until it's in your hands. And in my experience, low end katanas with fancier fittings might look good in pictures but in the flesh, more often than not, you'll quickly start to notice their deficiencies. That's why some of the kats recommended by folks around here look rather bland to you. They're designed to function first and look cool second. The Munetoshi Take T10 kat looks pretty good. It's under your budget and comes in 3 flavors! www.swordnarmory.com/Munetoshi-Brand-Take-Sword-Collection-s/340.htm
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Post by Elheru Aran on Feb 28, 2011 4:04:10 GMT
One option you have is to buy a better/more practical sword than these Musashis and what not, swing it around a few times to get the feel of it and decide if you like it, then send it to a customizer like Frank the bunny here where they'll pretty it up just as you like. Sure, that might cost a little more than you'd like... but you'd get a good katana, with the looks that you want, rather than a light piece suitable only for the lightest cutting and with the quality of work that you pay for at that price.
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Post by caferacer on Feb 28, 2011 16:35:22 GMT
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Post by ecovolo on Feb 28, 2011 19:22:10 GMT
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Post by ghost on Feb 28, 2011 19:26:08 GMT
Remember to check the classifieds at Sword Forum International, myarmoury, and here at SBG, of course. I see so many katanas passing through worth easily two times to three times what the owner is asking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 21:40:48 GMT
Thanks so much everybody!!!
I guess I'll buy the Musashi set for decorative purpose and get a decent katana for cuts.
So what's my best option?
T10 Munetoshi Light Cutter Katana Red
Hanwey Raptor
Munetoshi Take T10
Cheness 1060 "MOKKO" (I guess is the only 1060 on the list)
Ronin Dojo
With or withoout bo-hi? (whats the difference?)
Where I can learn more about the Hamon?
Again thanks guys!
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Feb 28, 2011 23:06:50 GMT
A bo-hi lightens the blade, pushing the point of balance closer to the handle, which makes the sword feel lighter and more agile. Plus, when you make a cutting stroke with good edge alignment and speed, a bo-hi blade will make a loud and distinct swishing sound (tachikaze).
You can still make tachikaze without bo-hi but it won't be as audible. I think this is why some people recommend bo-hi blades to beginners, since you'll be able to hear that swish even in a noisy dojo. A blade without bo-hi is more structurally sound and tend to cut through heavier targets better.
The katanas you list above are all good swords.
What do you want to know about hamon?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 21:06:40 GMT
The differences in between the fake, real, why in some katanas is not visible, designs....
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