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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2011 15:37:37 GMT
Howdy all, I have been practising with wasters nearly my entire life, and finally wanted to buy a real sword. I have been doing some research, and in the process have found out what metals are best (1060 carbon, marquenched, damascus) and what metals are not (stainless :evil: ). I have also learned a peened tang is better than a welded tang (weld is weakest point), and a few other things. I know how to put a very good edge upon most any blade (have a few machetes, many knives) and am not an amateur in sharpening. Upon the things I have learned, I came up with these two swords: www.trueswords.com/dark-knights-battle-sword-devastation-damascus-steel-p-5761.htmlThe tang on the TrueSwords one seemed a bit sketchy, having a weld and all. It did say that it was the same method used in Katanas, but I was unsure of that statement. kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2408The Hanewei Tinkers have received a copious amount of good reviews, and the peened pommel and indentations on this sword added a simple yet artistic look to it. I don't really have a need for historically accurate swords, just for something that is durable, well built, and can withstand slashing saplings and branches. Thanks! -Krylus |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Feb 26, 2011 15:42:17 GMT
There was a similar question about the other sword that was released alongside that True Swords one and the consensus seemed to be that was near junk (I believe one member's words were that he wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole), so I think the Tinker is the much safer bet. Plus, and this is just me, I happen to think it looks much better aesthetically, too.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Feb 26, 2011 15:51:17 GMT
STAY AWAY FROM THE TRUESWORDS BLADE! There is absolutely no proof that it's a safe blade to use, that I know of, from any reviews whatsoever. Until that's been provided, buy it only as a project blade to turn into a short-sword or dagger; that is actually a rather nice blade it's got, but the tang construction? FAIL, hard.
Now we could get into a discussion about whether you could actually make a *safe* blade with menuki construction, and I am of the belief that you can. Katanas have been done this way for a long time. A safe Euro blade with a menuki may be another story; I honestly am not sure.
Without getting into that further, I agree that yes, the Tinker is far better and almost certainly much safer. Go for that or any of the other Hanwei/Tinker swords.
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Post by Hiroshi on Feb 27, 2011 17:28:14 GMT
tinker is so much better then the trueswords blade!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 23:34:25 GMT
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Mar 1, 2011 23:58:21 GMT
If you like the euro look, get the Hanwei/Tinker Early Medieval Single Handed Sword... Both of the bottom two are hanwei NON-Tinker euros, which aren't very good (in the case of the hand and a half) and not good at all (in the case of the Agincourt). If you're getting a euro sword from Hanwei, make sure it's a Tinker...  -Slayer |
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Post by Hiroshi on Mar 2, 2011 0:03:25 GMT
100% awesome advice. I second it completely!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 1:24:20 GMT
Now knowing that, is the only difference between the 9th century blade and the Medieval blade looks and length, or which one would be best suited for my purposes (de-limbing saplings, cardboard, etc) or is it a simple matter of taste? The Hanwei/Tinker Medieval blade: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2404The Hanwei/Tinker 9th Century Viking blade: kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2408The Viking is made of carbon steel, (1060 I think) and the Medieval is made of Marquenched 5160 spring steel (same thing they use in leaf springs). Viking is peened, Medieval is threaded nut. The Medieval might be a bit better, in case I need to tighten the fittings over time or put some WD40 on the tang if I get it wet (somehow), or just take it apart in a review (which of course I will do) The Medieval one is a bit thicker, longer, but slightly thinner (all only slightly) What is wrong with the Agincourt or the 1 1/2 handed; are they simply not as solidly built, not as tempered, not same grade of steel, or are they meant for lighter things? Thanks for all your assistance in helping me find the correct sword! |
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Mar 2, 2011 1:32:02 GMT
Between the H/T's, either should be fantastic, but I've used neither so I'll leave more experienced forumites to comment... That being said, I know that the EMSHS has recieved GREAT reviews and is very tough, so it cannot be bad for your purposes.  I can say what's wrong with the others, though. The Agincourt; little distal taper, a craptastic edge, bad harmonics, too heavy, a-historical, and just plain UGLY. The Bastard; I don't know as much about this one, but I know that it's okay... simply not up to the level of the H/T's, by a LONG shot. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  -Slayer |
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Post by Luka on Mar 2, 2011 12:20:38 GMT
All Hanwei Tinkers are the same steel, 5160.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Mar 2, 2011 14:31:31 GMT
The EMSHS (common acronym for the medieval sword) is just such a good all-around sword that you can't really go wrong with it. I'd suggest buy that first, and then see about buying the Viking if you like it. If you don't, the rest of the H/T line are good anyway, and you'll find a lot of forumites here quite willing to take it off your hands...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 21:59:47 GMT
Thank you all for your help, I am going to go with the EMSHS, due to the ability to take it apart and the wider hilt. The Viking had nice indentations on the pommel and hilt, maybe I will add it to my collection later. Thanks!
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Post by frankthebunny on Mar 2, 2011 22:51:33 GMT
I love my emshs!! if you wind up unsatisfied with yours when you get it I will happily take it off your hands at a discount, lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2011 18:32:38 GMT
I agree with Hiroshi Tinker is better
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Post by ShooterMike on Mar 5, 2011 15:29:29 GMT
And they all work well as swords of the periods they are designed to replicate. I suggest picking a period in history with which you are most fascinated, and pick an H/T sword that fits that time period.
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