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Post by TomK on Feb 26, 2011 16:33:37 GMT
That blade is not the same blade as our XIX.1, it is the prototype and it is significantly longer but otherwise pretty much the same.
I didn't mean anything other than I didn't know he had one. I talk to Gus a lot (even before I started selling his swords) and the XIX.1 was one of his favorite swords for a long time so we talked about it a lot. for some reason I had the idea that the one Chuck got was the very first XIX Gus had made in a long time, but it was only the fist XIX.1. this sword is different in specs but designed the same and it didn't come up in cenversation. I assumed it didn't exist and was surprised to see it. there's really nothing more to it. it really is a lovely sword and there's no reason something like that couoldn't be done with a XIX.1, in fact I think there's a good chance something like that WILL be done in the future, but don't hold your breath it's gonna be a while.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 26, 2011 19:54:59 GMT
Saw it go up on Facebook. The last one off was a Saxon he wanted about $2100 for (w/scabbard). This should be in that range.
Fortunately I just blew it all on two from Tom and the A&A rapiers...
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Post by chuckinohio on Mar 5, 2011 10:35:33 GMT
Some info for those interested in the XIX type.
I was able to directly compare my Atrim XIX.1 to an Albion Machiavelli which is a Type XIX blade. From visual inspection and handling alone my impressions were as follows.
The incised side fullers on the Albion were very cleanly done and visually quite attractive. They are narrow and shallow unlike the side fullers on the Atrim model. The side fullers on the Atrim model account for more mass being removed from the blade at the ricasso area and may account for the point of balance being farther out than the Albion model. The elaborate hilt on the Albion does add a bit more weight to the grip area of the blade, and the Albion feels a bit more lively in the hand due to the closer point of balance.
My conclusion is that the Atrim XIX.1 point of balance being farther out than the Albion is due to the plain hilt work and more substantial fullering in the ricasso of the blade. The Albion model due to its complex hilt and more mass in the ricasso, has a closer point of balance and feels a bit more agile. The Atrim has the slight edge in blade presence, you can tell immediately upon hefting the two models that the Atrim is going to be the more robust cutter, while the Albion would give you more of an edge in finesse for thrusting.
All things being equal, I walked away feeling that I had the better blade. That is based solely upon value, and what I perceive the performance would be, as I didn't actually get to cut with the Albion. The Albion was a damn handsome blade, make no mistake, it was beautiful and dry handled very well. It looked like, and handled like exactly what it was, a high end representation of the type XIX.
What I took to be a comment on the Atrim, and a compliment to Gus was, the Albion owner tried to buy my XIX within the first minute, and twice again after that.
As if................................... :lol:
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Post by TomK on Mar 5, 2011 16:01:29 GMT
LOL! I hope you told the owner where he could get his own ATrim XIX.1 it is good to hear a direct comparison. I like a sword with blade presence and this XIX.1 is one of my favorite feeling swords.
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Post by chuckinohio on Mar 6, 2011 10:01:27 GMT
I referred him to the TTA website, explained the process for commissioning his own version of the XIX.1, and the different grades available. He is more of a RenFaire and role playing guy versus a backyard cutter type, so we will see.
The differences between the two models were really rather subtle, other than cosmetics, but as subtle as they were, you could easily discern the difference in the POB once held in hand.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Mar 6, 2011 17:50:07 GMT
Heh... I'm both, so that makes me like a hybrid-super dork. :lol:
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Post by TomK on Mar 6, 2011 19:16:32 GMT
haven't we already established your uber-geekdom?
on a side not I just noticed that this post gets my post-count into usable sword steel, if only the cheap stuff (1045)
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Mar 7, 2011 4:20:15 GMT
Oooooo.... one more post and I to could be made of the same stuff a budget Ronin Sword Katana is...
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