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Post by Freebooter on Feb 12, 2011 5:13:24 GMT
Hello all, I wasn't sure where to post this so here goes; Just saw the new movie "The Eagle". Pretty good. Won't tell you about it because I don't want to spoil it for anyone. It's about that era of history (Romans vs Scots and Picts ca 120AD), and some good views of Scottish highlands and all. FB
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Post by SanMarc on Feb 12, 2011 10:18:08 GMT
Man I want to see that!!!
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 13, 2011 0:08:11 GMT
A friend of mine that was there said he did not like it all that much, not enough history or action. I said history? Action? It was all through it!! I think he expected it to be like Gladiator with large scale battles and Roman legions on the march, etc.. It did show some good fighting in it, believe me, but not on the scale of Gladiator. But I liked it a lot for that reason. It more realistic to me. And the northern British Celts, the Scotti and Picts? I thought it portrayed them pretty well.
Another thing I liked about it. As I said, it was about the strife between the Romans and northern British Celts, the Scotti, Picts, etc.. I have a lot of Scottish blood running through my veins and I have studied Scottish Gaelic some and have always wanted to hear it spoken in a normal, real conversation, etc.. Well, in the movie all the enemy spoke Scottish Gaelic. As I said I have studied it a bit and caught some of it. I was thrilled to hear the language spoke in normal way by normal people in conversation.
At first I was unsure what in the heck they were speaking. But after a while the main charactor had to go north of Hadrian's Wall (you'll have to watch the movie to find out why) and took his slave, a northern British Celt, with him. At first when I heard people speak in a fast, normal way, I was unsure. But the Roman and his slave were caught by some folks painted blueish (Picts?), whom the slave and others called the Sea or Seal People (could not tell which). Anyway, they had to reverse roles to keep the Roman alive. The blue painted men asked the Roman's slave who he was and he answered "Is misse Esca!" I caught that and remembered it as being Scottish Gaelic. It simply means "I am Esca", pronounced "Ish misheh Esca". Fascinating and hard to learn language to say the least. But I was thrilled to hear real Gaelic spoken in such a movie. MAde it all the more realistic to me!! Later, Freebooter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 8:30:10 GMT
Sounds a fascinating movie, I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 15:35:40 GMT
Thanks for the heads up, it's on my list to see now. Personally I didn't care for Gladiator much as it was obviously Hollywoodized to the max with a health does of pg-13 stirred in. Now "Centurian" (European movie which is on stream from Netflix atm) is a great Roman/Picts action flick!! Awesome battle scenes and great swordplay. Definately not pg-13. Those pict chicks are smoking hot. Scary but hot hehe. Also the best of the best imho is the "Sparticus" series of which the whole 1st season and several episodes from season 2 are on Netflix stream too. Seriously guys if you like swords and haven't watched Sparticus your not doing it right. I pulled a bonanza and watched the whole 1st season in one weekend while the wife and kids were out of town. It rocks. Oh and if you do watch Sparticus don't accidentally start season 2 before watching season 1 like I did. The opening scenes in Season 2 show the climactic end of season 1 . Anyhow, thanks The Eagle is on my list . PS - for 9 bucks a month if you are Netflix capable it truly is a great bargain. Not many great bargains out there any more but this is worth every dollar!
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 13, 2011 16:26:28 GMT
I never heard of centurian. Sounds like a good movie. Only watched a few Sparticus episodes and I liked what I saw. Did you ever get into the Highlander Series? I loved it for some reason. Not only sword play but those immortal guys would each have his own type if sword he favored. I like sword and fantasy type stuff like Conan and all that, and I sort of was intrigued with Highlander and the whole immortal aspect of it and their "culture" if you will.
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Post by JohnE on Feb 13, 2011 19:16:45 GMT
You're talking about Sparticus: Blood and Sand, right? I heard a lot of good things about it so I tried to watch it. Couldn't get through the first episode before I had to turn it off. I honestly just don't know what everyone seems to see in it. *shrug*
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Post by Elheru Aran on Feb 13, 2011 20:02:08 GMT
That Spartacus show seems to be mostly "Look, sir! Mammary glands and excessive nudity! And, here, gladiators. Fancy a toga?" That kind of Rome... not that I'm saying it's necessarily inaccurate, to be honest I haven't seen a bit of it, just trailers and such but it does strike me as being rather a lot of all that. I dig HBO's Rome show a little better...
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 13, 2011 20:32:35 GMT
Rome was the chrome plated and titanium edged monster: loved it, and still do.
Spartacus: Blood and Sand? I had a really hard time getting through the first episode, which was, to my mind, just about one thousand times too much a copy of 300. After that, it DID pick up, although I'll grant Elheru's point that it could have been called Spartacus: Blood and Boobs.
I'm actually taking a break from netflixing Centurion right now, and it's off to a good start, and I'm looking forward to catching The Eagle sometime this week.
It's been much on my mind of late that the time is right for historical movies. We've got the CGI to make them work, and let's face it, there's so much history to be picked over and shown theatrically. Plus, advancements in archaeology means we can make Viking movies without horned helmets (always a plus!). Here's hoping! (Frankly, I think the time is ripe for a good 1066 movie, but then I would, wouldn't I?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 20:35:03 GMT
Freebooter, you may not be aware of this, but the place you need to go for a vacation sometime in the future is Cape Breton Island in Eastern Canada. Apparently their Gaelic is older than any form spoken in Scotland and more people speak it as a primary language than anywhere else in the world. There are dialects there that are dead in Scotland. Scottish linguists go to Cape Breton to study.
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Post by Talon on Feb 13, 2011 20:58:39 GMT
im quite envious of you freebooter , while i still have a long term love affair with highlander 1 ,i could never get the sequels or the series planet zeist in the quickening,the fact that in highlander 3 we were introduced to kane ,and the prize was already won by connor (there can be only one clearly wasnt the case)if id just been released from a cave after centuries of incarceration id be pining for a bic mac and fries ,not to go seeking connor mcloud :lol: oooh i best stop or ill go into full on rant mode about the highlander 1 reboot ,minus clancy brown and christopher lambert no,honestly i would, highlander was a bold and amazing piece of film and i think they milked and abused the franchise for every penny without a thought for the originality of the script ,it could have been so much more. damn i am ranting lol :oops:
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 13, 2011 21:11:46 GMT
Thanks Dodger. I hae heard of it and would like to go there. I love any historcal place. My all time first choice if I could go anywhere in teh world would be to Hisserlik, Turkcy, the site of ancient Troy. I love ancient Greece and all history connected to it. FB
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Post by MEversbergII on Feb 13, 2011 21:17:06 GMT
Cossack, check out "1066: The Battle for Middle Earth". Has its moments, but there are a few "dropped the ball" bits that I'll let you find out for yourself. Fun movie, though.
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 13, 2011 23:28:52 GMT
Hey Talon, I agree, Highlander 1 was the only one I liked. One of the sequals, the one bout the other planet, was just out there. The first one is the only one I liked. But I do like the series. The guy that played the main charactor in the series looked enough like Sean Connery to have been his sonin real life! LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 4:58:18 GMT
Yeah we used to watch Highlander the series...sheesh I think that was back in the late 80's? I think I remember watching it in the dorm room at college, we'd gather round and watch it. Either there on later when we moved out of the dorm. Was a great series for it's time, still a great series but lacks the "reality in your face" factor. I also agree the first movie was great, possibly even groundbreaking for its time. I can see where Sparticus could be distasteful to many and I suppose it is just personal preference but I like the realistic brutality portrayed and man is that series brutal. I have never seen vicious open wounds and realistic death like in that series portrayed on the screen before. Not that people being hacked up is a good thing obviously, but men are drawn to violence/war for some reason and if I'm going to be watching it I'm not squeamish and want it as realistic as possible and the special effects are so good that if I didn't know it was fake I would swear it was real. Yes it could be called "blood and boobs" but my research and preferred historical reading is either late Roman empire or early post Roman Britain time periods and as outlandish as the actions are in that series if you consider the facts of how life was back then it must have been pretty close to how it is portrayed, regardless of how shocking it is to our sensibilities. It's an open the Ark and get the face melt kind of thing .That said I certainly don't consider myself an expert on the time period but I enjoy reading/learning about it and as a result I'm not ignorant about it either. Also it grows on you as you keep watching, or so it did with me. Yes there is the "So do you like watching movies with gladiators in them?" factor, but being secure in my sexuality...meh...whatever there's enough good manly slaughter to keep the scales balanced and then some . But to each his own, certainly. Just thought I'd toss it out there in the spirit of a recommendation to those who may not be familiar with it and might like an oversexed bloodthirsty toga party :lol: . I'm glad you brought up HBO's Rome as I haven't seen it and forgot about it..going on the list! Have a good one
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Post by Freebooter on Feb 14, 2011 5:42:52 GMT
I like sword combat my self, if it is realistic and well choreagraphed and all. And if I am going to see combat, then I want it to be realistic, blood and all. I have not been watching that series though. I will have to watch it sometime. FB
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 16, 2011 2:38:23 GMT
Channel 4 says I don't live in the right zip code! DRAT AND ARGH!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 22:09:48 GMT
Spartacus: Blood and Sand and Gods of the Arena are pure awesomeness :-p You have to get into a few episodes til more things are fleshed out. But yes, it's extreme in the aspects it's choosing to focus on: Sex, violence, etc. But there are actually quite a few accurate aspects of those shows, even if they are exaggerated in many areas. The Gladiator types for one are accurate. But at any rate, it's a great show. You just need to get into a few episodes. As for nudity: it's mostly breasts. I mean, c'mon boys. Is this something you've never seen? Haha. It's not as bad as you think. The gladiator stuff is honestly more interesting. But yes, the show is stylized like 300 and Gladiator, they don't hide it. Why not use it? Great camera work and it fits modern ideas. You'll be seeing it a lot in other places besides Spartacus ...Just like many directors went Matrix-happy with those types of effects for a while.
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