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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 4:59:12 GMT
Going by the specs, what do you guys think for a possible first cutter? Or the other one they list on the same page. www.trueswords.com/honorable-kni ... -5760.html |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Feb 1, 2011 5:12:00 GMT
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Post by Tendrax on Feb 1, 2011 5:19:09 GMT
Un-likely to be structurally sound. There was a thread on that sword a little while ago, and the general consensus was that no body thought it would stay together, and no one was willing to risk the money to find out. If you can spend a bit more(around 50 bucks), you could pick up one of the Hanwei Tinker euro swords. They have a decent selection of styles, and they're known to be great entry level cutters. Also if you'd prefer a katana, you can get the Musashi 1060 series swords for around 80 bucks, and they're decent swords. Not really beaters, but good light cutters. If you don't mind it looking modern the Cold Steel machete's make great backyard cutters, and they do have a couple that look like swords, including the just announced Gladius Machete. They'd be a lot cheaper than that thing and can handle whatever you throw at them. That said, if you'd like to take the risk on the sword you linked too, I'd be kind of curious to find out if it's usable, or if it's just a really ugly wall hanger. Lol. Just be aware that we have no idea if it will hold together or if it will just fly apart and kill your dog or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 6:52:25 GMT
Yea, I might see if I still have a coupon for these guys. IF..IF, I can get for cheaper..I might. I too am curious if this could do some light cutting for hundred dollars. We will see if I choose to be the "guinea pig"..  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 7:00:16 GMT
Ok..I just read one of the reviews on the True site..someone says.."It makes a weird clang noise in the handle when shaken, this could be due to the tang construction". Umm yea, unless I am wearing some armor, I don't think I wanna be the "guinea pig" anymore.
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Post by Tendrax on Feb 1, 2011 7:04:14 GMT
Hahahaha. Oh man, I wasn't suggesting you try to cut with it right out of the box. Just bust open the hilt so we know what it looks like is all. I'd be willing to do it myself, but I'm really just starting my collection and I'd rather spend my money on swords I know are good at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 7:11:24 GMT
Well, can't say I would have tried cutting as soon as I opened, but after reading what that guy said, not sure if I even want to spend any money on it. Then again, I am assuming he didn't cut anything with it and he heard the "clanking sound" right out of the box, but you never know. Still..it might make for a decent Faire sword..but not something I will get for my first Medieval cutter.
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Post by Tendrax on Feb 1, 2011 7:16:00 GMT
Yeah, makes sense. Like I said though, if you want a decent medieval cutter you can get one of the Hanwei Tinker Euros for about 150 bucks. Only issues I've heard of are that the edge could come somewhat dull or inconsistent, and on some of the models the scabbard chape actually rubs on the edge. Relatively simple fixes, for what are supposedly very good handling swords for under 200 bucks. Can't speak from experience, but everyone on here who has one highly recommends them. Mine should be arriving on Thursday or Friday and I can't wait.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 7:35:51 GMT
Just found the Hanwei: Sir William Marshall..not bad. Nice handle, good length..hmmmm
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Post by Hiroshi on Feb 1, 2011 8:12:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 8:23:58 GMT
That doesn't look too bad Hiroshi. I agree on the handle, a little too thin for me.
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Post by Sir Tre on Feb 4, 2011 3:18:39 GMT
the product description states that the tang extends 4" into the 6" handle. that would concern most swordsman
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Post by chrisperoni on Feb 4, 2011 3:44:00 GMT
Yup. What happens for those last 2 inches? Is that where the helicopter launching mechanism is located?  The description says it does have a single bamboo peg like a katana so that's sounds alright, but then they toss on a welded rod to the end of the tang for the pommel to thread on...mix and match hilt construction. I'd be curious to hear what a sword maker thinks of this design? I'm going to ask brotherbanzai what he thinks. |
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Post by Sir Tre on Feb 4, 2011 6:53:00 GMT
with all of the technology we have nowadays... why cant they just make one that springs of the box and injures folks without all the hassle of swinging it around :lol:
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Post by Tendrax on Feb 4, 2011 7:30:35 GMT
I'm sure I could redneck up something to do that. Like the exploding can of snakes, but a sword instead. Shouldn't be too hard. :lol:
Hell wouldn't even need a whole sword, and I think I have a broken SLO laying around here somewhere. :lol:
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Post by chrisperoni on Feb 5, 2011 1:44:42 GMT
Got a reply!
Sent: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:09 pm
From: brotherbanzai
To: chrisperoni
Hi Chris,
It is certainly possible that a design like that could be done well and would make for a usable sword. It would have to be a well done weld into a slotted section of the tang using a rod of decent thickness. Of course, even then, you still have a screw on pommel, which is a lousy design for most types of swords anyway. Even peened can be lousy (or worse than screw on) when it's not done right.
The first question I would ask is, why was it done this way? Can they only get steel of a cetain length and that's the only way they could get it to sword length? Or is it just cheaper to weld a piece of threaded rod onto the end compared to shaping the tang into to right shape and then threading the end? The only advantage I can see to this method on a blade that size would be to cut costs. Maybe the shorter steel is a little cheaper, and throwing a welded rod on the end is less time consuming than shaping the tang and treading the end directly.
The second question is, how likely is it to be well done for that price? Since the likely reason for this assembly method is to make swords cheaper, well I think that answers the second question.
Makes me wonder about the rest of the sword as well. If you go to buy a car and the mirror is duct taped on because it was just cheaper than doing it the right way, you have to wonder, "what else is messed up on this thing that was 'cheaper' to jury rig than fix"? I wouldn't even bother to test drive that car.
Jeffrey
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Post by Tendrax on Feb 5, 2011 5:20:00 GMT
Maybe down the road a bit I'll just buy this thing and bust it apart to answer this question. Lord knows I'm curious as hell. It'll have to wait a while though, already spent my "random stuff" funds for this month. Lol.
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