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Post by sam salvati on Jan 30, 2011 5:55:33 GMT
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Post by Sam H on Jan 30, 2011 6:14:13 GMT
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Post by sam salvati on Jan 30, 2011 6:27:14 GMT
I'm an iron sights kind of guy, not into lights and lazers and stuff like that, I HATE ar style stocks too. I'm a fun gunner, so none of that tacticrap does it for me hehe. I wish I could get high cap mags for it in NY, but prebans are hard to find.
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Post by Sam H on Jan 30, 2011 6:48:45 GMT
I used to be a dedicated iron sights guy too but I had to admit that adding a red dot sight or better yet a holographic sight helped immensely with quick target acquisition. After that the door opened up and suddenly I was looking at mil-dot scopes for hunting and fun shooting etc. As for stocks - if the tactical stuff doesn't work for you what about the more custom stuff? Voila! www.clarkcustomguns.com/1022con.htmwww.rifle-stocks.com/Very nice for shooting and makes your rifle yours - personalize it. Last year I was planning on putting a bull barrel on my 10/22 and somehow rigging the Archangel kit to fit the gun with a bull barrel but well bad things happened in my family and now I'm struggling just to get back to where I was. Gun customizations had to be put on the back burner. Btw for holographic sights (no magnification) check this out: www.eotech-inc.com/index.phpand www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=18063/Product/HOLOGRAPHIC_SIGHTFor a nice cheap version of the above (not as good but at 1/10th the cost) www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/default.aspx?productnumber=910680These things make shooting very fun. Its very easy to move from target to target. Water bottles that your swords haven't killed explode very quickly down range with a reflex sight on a 10/22.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 31, 2011 2:48:37 GMT
Nice job Sam. My "stays by the back door gun" is a 10/22 that looks just like that, with the exception of no flash hider and a set of XS ghost ring sights, and it doesn't have that cool paint job. I had it out with me all morning while feeding hay on my little Kubota tractor. It is a world of fun exploding fresh piles of cow poop with that little .22 while driving along on an open-air tractor. It's almost like zombie brains! :lol:
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Post by Student of Sword on Jan 31, 2011 2:56:39 GMT
Iron sights? What century are you guys living in? :shock: They had iron sight in 1700s. Today is January 30, 2011. Aimpoint T-1 Micro or EOTech is the way to go.
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Post by Major, Cory J on Jan 31, 2011 4:25:46 GMT
Wow seeing those stocks on those links provided makes me really want to send in my paperwork now to get my PAL (Possession and Acquisition License)! I just got to fill out some more forms and send it away, had all my testing done years ago but never got around to it. Kinda wish I had now.
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Post by Sam H on Jan 31, 2011 5:00:08 GMT
SoS - I love the EoTech stuff and have shot firearms with their holo-sights. Great stuff but its all out of my price range. As for iron sights yeah I'm still stuck in the dark ages of modern firearms - and regressing. I'm considering moving into the black powder area of firearms and have been eyeing up some modern remakes of the good ole' Kentucky rifle. On a humorous thought I kind of envisioned a Kentucky long rifle with a picatinny tactical rail welded onto the receiver/barrel and with a reflex sight on it. lol
Major - I love those stocks too and constantly flip back and forth between a tactical style stock kit and one of those. I like the looks of those stocks but love the tactical (read tacti-kool) look and functionality of the tactical style stocks. Man if I were wealthy...
Anyway if Sam goes the way of most 10/22 owners he's going to continue to modify his rifle. I'd be interested in seeing his rifle transform into what his final vision of the rifle will be. Its too bad for him he lives in the People's Republic of New York and as such can't have hi-cap mags along with a few other fun toys.
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Post by GUEST on Jan 31, 2011 10:07:04 GMT
Not all 10/22 owners I've had my fo 25 years now only thing I've did too them is put an extended mag release on both of them and a scope on one.
I see no reason to try to make a tactical rifle out of any 22LR cal.
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Post by Sam H on Jan 31, 2011 12:55:09 GMT
I did say "most". As for making a tactical rifle out of a .22lr I also stated that something like that would be primarily for the "tacti-kool" benefits. I agree that turning a .22lr into a tactical rifle is a bit well useless but hey I still like how it looks and I love the idea of a .22 rifle that you can fold up and stick in a pack (voila Keltec). That said, I look at a .22 as more of a very small game (rabbit, squirrel, raccoon) and survival rifle than a combat rifle. Doesn't mean it can't have a folding stock and reflex sights though.
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Post by sam salvati on Feb 1, 2011 4:17:38 GMT
I'll most likely not go the way of "most" 10/22 owners, I think the red dot or really anything but a good affordable scope on the 10/22 is ridiculous. It's not an ar, it doesn't need lots of ridiculous junk on it to make it a better gun (or atleast better looking), plus I don't see the point of putting an eotech or it's like on a rifle that cost less then the damn sight. I like the challenge of iron sights, and in time with training can be just as quick on target acquisition, or atleast quick enough.
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Post by Sam H on Feb 1, 2011 4:48:14 GMT
I personally wouldn't put an eotech sight on a 10/22 either... thus I gave the link of a less expensive sight - I think it was selling for around $40. I like iron sights too and teach my kids to shoot with iron sights first. Scopes are just a luxury that I've decided to let myself have though. For my 10/22 I switch between a cheap Tasco red dot ($40 at walmart) and an even cheaper Tasco .22lr 3x scope ($18 at walmart). It depends on what I want to do - squirrel hunting is the scope - the red dot/green dot tends to obscure the squirrel at distance and the dot itself is a 5 MOA dot so it covers a pretty big spot and my shots are never dead center of the dot. I use the dot for killing water bottles out to 50 yds with the .22. My scope goes on for hunting - so I can actually see what I'm shooting at. lol
I will end up putting a folding stock on my 10/22 but just for ease of transport. I can't really justify spending more money than that on the gun too but man I wish I could. lol
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Post by ShooterMike on Feb 1, 2011 17:00:23 GMT
I will never NOT own a Ruger 10/22 with iron sights. But I just about hate the factory sights. I LOVE these ghost ring sights from XS Sight Systems, though. I think these are just about the most functional set of off-the-shelf sights you can put on one of these neat little rifles. Along with a good trigger pull, these significantly improve the "shootability" of the 10/22 IMO. Front Sight Rear Sight Together
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Post by Sam H on Feb 1, 2011 21:37:00 GMT
Holy crap! The factory sights were what turned me away from iron sights on my 10/22. I loved the ghost ring/peep sights that came on the A2 configuration of the AR-15 and I had always thought it'd be great to have that on my 10/22.
Without any specialized equipment how difficult is it to mount the front sight? The rear sight looks like it just screws into the mounting holes for the scope rail that comes with the rifle so that's no big deal. What about the front sight though? did you have to file off the factory front sight? Would the front sight fit on a bull barrel?
I might have to pick up a set of those for myself once my returns come in if its not too hard for a mechanical idiot like me to do it.
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Post by ShooterMike on Feb 1, 2011 21:52:08 GMT
You are correct that the rear sight mounts with two screws in the rear two mounting holes. The 10/22 standard front sight fits into a dovetail on the barrel. You just drift out the factory sight and drift in the replacement. All you need is a hammer, punch (preferably brass or aluminum), screwdriver, and loctite. And a way to hold the barrel, either a padded vise or two people and a worktable top.
As for mounting that front sight on a bull barrel, since there's no factory sight on a bull barrel, you have to cut a new dovetail. I have a Clark Custom 10/22 that has this same set of sights. It was as simple as milling a single dovetail for the front sight and putting on the rear sight.
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Post by Sam H on Feb 1, 2011 22:07:17 GMT
Oh... so in my 10/22's current configuration I could pretty easily mount the new sights. If I ever get a bull barrel I'd have to start cutting into the barrel. Well I guess I'm going to have to perfect my non existent gunsmithing skills.
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Post by sam salvati on Feb 2, 2011 3:12:28 GMT
see Mike, I like the stock 10/22 sights, the little brass dot and the diamond work great for me.
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Post by ShooterMike on Feb 2, 2011 3:34:18 GMT
That's good Sam. My face is too fat for 'em. I have to torque my head all over to the side just to get the sights aligned. Unnatural and awkward. But that's one of the blessings of a 10/22. If something doesn't work for you, there's all kinds of accessories out there that will help you fit it to yourself.
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Post by sam salvati on Feb 2, 2011 3:42:46 GMT
Yeh it's very personal, my eye is right perfect with the 10/22 sights, but then I like the Keltec sub2k sights too (soon to be my newest gun) and most people do not like they have to be cheekbone to the reciever. Guess I got a short neck
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Post by ShooterMike on Feb 2, 2011 3:45:40 GMT
Nope, you have high cheek bones. that's why the factory 10/22 sights fit you. If you close your eyes and cheek your 870 the same way, I bet you have to slightly lift your head to see the sights?
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