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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 8:19:14 GMT
Just got my Dynasty forge Musha class Shobu and I have some questions. Ive watched some videos and read some stuff about cleaning and oiling the blade. I going to try and pick up some choji oil tomorrow or should I just getting sewing machine oil? I was just gonna go get a maintenance/cleaning kit but the shop I was gonna hit is out of the kits but has oil. One of the sites I looked at said you can use flannel cloth for removing and applying oil. Somewhere else it said rice paper for removing and applying. Are these a good substitute for the cloth supplied in the kits? I also have a lens cleaning cloth for glasses can I use this for something? IknowB4 glasses hahaha.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 19, 2011 12:09:44 GMT
As long as it is a light, thin sewing machine oil it will be perfect. Personally I like clean, white cotton rags or cloths. You can use pretty much any lint-free fabric, a microfibre cloth would work well too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 5:43:38 GMT
For the price of a cleaning/maintenance kit I got a life time supply of choji oil. Found a cotton cloth from a guitar cleaning kit. Bought some 91% rubbing alcohol and some paper towels. I wiped down the blade with the cotton guitar cloth, then applied alcohol with a paper towel, let it evaporate then wiped it again with the guitar cloth and then applied Choji oil with the microfiber lens cleaning cloth.
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Post by frankthebunny on Jan 20, 2011 19:14:25 GMT
sounds like you got it under control. just so you know, you could use light mineral oil on your blade, it's the same thing without the scent. just make sure to only put a very light coat on, too much could damage the wood of the saya as well as attract dirt and debris.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 22:35:33 GMT
I really like the scent my room smells of cloves now. I put the microfiber cloth on top of the choji oil and turned it over very briefly then let it soak in. I did this in a couple spots on the cloth and let them completely soak in. It seemed like a pretty light coat, from what I read if it beads up its way to much. The guy at the shop where I picked up the oil said you should just barely see the oil on it. Thoughts?
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Post by chrisperoni on Jan 20, 2011 22:51:09 GMT
yep a light coat is jut fine- sometimes I leave such a light coat I have to touch the blade just to be sure it's there- then have to clean that up! Only thing I'd do different is use one cloth or disposable papertowels for the first wipe down- that way you aren't putting the dirtiness that was just wiped off back on the blade, as would happen if using the guitar cloth both times. P.S. This post/these comments are the most calm and inoffensive I've read from you Mad P) You feelin' ok?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 1:28:29 GMT
Nothing to poke fun at yet hahaha and I'm still in a state of euphoria about my blade . Trying to keep it contained. I went and asked a neighbor if I could have some bamboo. He said yes had a couple that had recently fell down but were still embedded in the ground. They were about a foot or two off the ground side ways and the thickest part being 4 inches in circumference. I tried to get the best angle and moved up to the 3" mark on em but couldn't get all the way through in one slice. I got both stocks out in two slices, took em home and started pruning em for cutting. I used to guitar cloth to wipe up the blade so I guess I have to use paper towels now. Are you just supposed to throw em in the washing machine? Whats a good way to set up bamboo for cutting?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 21:59:36 GMT
can i use WD-40 on my sword??? and will it be good for it?
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Post by ecovolo on Jan 29, 2011 4:20:12 GMT
My personal experience with WD-40 is that it's good for short-term storage, like a few days. After a few days, the residue gets sticky and attracts dust.
For long-term storage, I'd recommend silicone spray. A can of Permatex 80070 Silicone Spray costs $4.00 on Amazon right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 17:02:59 GMT
How do I know which kind of mineral oil to get??
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Post by ecovolo on Jan 29, 2011 21:42:19 GMT
The kind you find at the drug store for medicinal purposes (ie. as a lubricant/laxative) works well enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 8:20:34 GMT
Say, I want to sharpen up my katana what do I use to sharpen it?? Can I just use accusharp or something like that?..
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Post by Sam H on Jan 30, 2011 16:53:47 GMT
Accusharps are bad for katana. While they put a cutting edge on the blade accusharps and other like devices will put a secondary bevel on your katana thus ruining the geometry of the blade.
Now that being said if you decide that you want to use an accusharp on your katana for a quick sharpening its really your choice. Not my place to tell you not to do it. I wouldn't use it on my katana but that's my choice. Just bear in mind that using an accusharp over and over will cause your katana to fail to perform properly.
If you want to sharpen a katana properly you'll have to take a hybrid polish system. TomK uses a power belt sander to polish/sharpen swords and he does a good job of it.
That though requires purchasing a slack belt sander, multiple belts for the sander and of course there's always the chance of ruining your sword's geometry anyway. You could always send it to Tom to sharpen but then you're talking about more money yet and your sword will be out of your possession for at least a few days (shipping to and from).
In any case if you use an accusharp on a katana and find that it works for you then great. I wouldn't use it and I'm sure many others won't either.
Oh and regarding oils for swords - there's been multiple threads on the old forum and one in the maintenance section of this forum about that. Read up for all your options and their benefits.
Thus far there's choji oil, mineral oil, 3-in-1 oil, sewing machine oil, wd-40, engine oil, transmission oil and greases of different types.
Use what you wish and do as you wish. Just make sure you know what you're doing and if and when you ruin a sword don't blame the products you use but blame yourself for it. Those items don't just apply themselves.
Btw Hax, where do you live that you can just ask your neighbor for 4" diameter bamboo? Frankly I'm envious of people who have such a readily accessible supply of large bamboo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 23:04:20 GMT
Portland Oregon, I need to go scouting for more because I don't think he is willing to give up anymore. The ones he gave me had already fell over. bringing my hacksaw everywhere hoping I find another grove. I put some ads on craigslist looking for free bamboo that had been cut down and they were going to get rid of. no luck yet on that
What about whetstones? grits?
Do you have a link to the threads you mentioned?
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Post by Sam H on Jan 31, 2011 2:18:27 GMT
Bamboo when it grows well in a climate (and especially in the sizes you mention) could be running type bamboo. As such its entirely possible for bamboo to be growing wild somewhere. I'd suggest seeking out wet (not swamp just areas that get lots of rain) areas that are wild and seeing if there is any bamboo growing wild. Large running bamboo likes very moist soil and warm temperatures with semi-filtered to short periods of direct sunlight that is protected from cold winds. Find these conditions and if there is any bamboo growing wild in your area you should find the bamboo. Links - hmm... www.militec1.comThat's the link for what I use. forum.sword-buyers-guide.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1677&p=27995#p27995and of course just sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgiProblem with that site is that the search forum works like *expletive*. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 3:27:44 GMT
It rains all the time up here, I can count the number of sunny days on my hands.
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Post by Sam H on Jan 31, 2011 3:37:50 GMT
If its fairly warm too then you should be able to find wild bamboo growing. If I recall correctly there is a rather large bamboo grower/seller in Oregon. www.bamboogarden.com/I think they're somewhere around Portland - perhaps you could stop in for a visit?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 3:45:46 GMT
maybe a super stealth night attack mission on their supply :lol:
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Post by Sam H on Jan 31, 2011 4:07:21 GMT
If I weren't half way across the country from you I might actually join you in that mission. lol
I'd considered ordering bamboo from them several years ago before I got divorced and lost my house to my ex. I ended up ordering bamboo from a supplier in Michigan instead - much closer and shipping costs were considerably lower. The only problem with that was that the Michigan grower specialized in cold hardy bamboos (which is what I could only grow anyway) so I had no access to larger bamboo species. Still I had a little bamboo grove going and it was nice to sit in there on a warm summer night and listen to the breeze whisper through the culms - it was very relaxing and peaceful. It also helped me to dream of my country of birth.
Anyway if you have the ability (as in you're allowed to) grow bamboo you should look into it. Its very rewarding in many ways other than just for cutting with swords.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 7:36:16 GMT
I rent and the owners semprini bout my neighbor growing it. Someday hopefully :cry:
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