Greg
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Post by Greg on Jan 14, 2011 8:58:01 GMT
So I was looking through Kult of Athena today, like most of us do, and was looking at all the pretty swords when THIS popped out at me! www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... in+Jie+Dao Maybe I'm late for this boat, as I've been late for others, but just how new is this blade, and has anyone heard anything about it yet? |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 14, 2011 12:07:37 GMT
Greg, it's part of Hanwei's latest line that includes their Rhinelander, Crecy, and Tactical Katana, so I don't think anyone's heard anything about it yet, but I would love to be proven wrong since I love the look of that little blade.
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Post by Turok on Jan 15, 2011 4:06:58 GMT
personally, I don't like it but that's just me! If you ask my point of view, I think this is one of those modern weapons (or tools :roll: ) that tries to pretend its old and traditional...it's hard for me to explain but it just looks plain "hokie" and "tacky" to me and unless you're a monk or something, there is very little use for it :? Also if you look closely, it looks like the scabbard says "Shaolin" or "small trees" which kinda looks corny...maybe I'm being too critical but this release kinda disappoints me! lol
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Post by Sir Tre on Jan 16, 2011 0:40:43 GMT
i can see why you would cosider this a hokie release. it resembles a machete. might be a replica of old chinese machete... dont know. as for little trees, if i am not mistaken, shaolin means little forest.
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Post by Student of Sword on Jan 16, 2011 0:42:57 GMT
It is not even a weapon. It is a utility tool.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 16, 2011 1:11:53 GMT
Shaolin does indeed mean Little Forest.
@student: Why can't it be both?
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Post by Student of Sword on Jan 16, 2011 1:39:40 GMT
Sure. But so can my kitchen knife, or for that matter the pot-and-pan in my kitchen. Anything can be used as a weapon of last resort. But clearly the design of the Jie Dao is far less ideal as a weapon, especially for that length. You can only cut, there is no point. It clearly meant as a utility tool. For a same length and weight, you can have a far better weapon.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 16, 2011 1:55:09 GMT
You make a good point, but you know the Roman saying that "the slash wounds, the thrust kills?" If we think on that and the nature of Shaolin monks who were forbidden to be the aggressor in a fight and only killed if it was unavoidable, such a weapon would be fairly ideal since it can't thrust. Of course, as you say, it was more a household tool than a weapon; after all, they had many proper weapons.
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Post by soupsandwich on Jan 16, 2011 20:49:16 GMT
Finally, something to cut butternut squash, and would make a nice contrast to my Henckels.
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Post by Turok on Jan 18, 2011 3:44:19 GMT
hahaha :lol: ! Well to me little trees, or small forest its more or less the same translation for Shaolin just like how its sometimes spelled Xiaolin but in the future I'll try and stick with something that is more commonly known. Maybe I'm being too mean but it's just that after seeing the Rodell Cutting Jian and the new WWII Dadao, I was expecting something better and more practical (something that can actually cut :roll: )
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 18, 2011 23:45:57 GMT
I have no doubt it'll cut pretty much anything. You just have to remember that it's not a SWORD-- it appears to be much more a KNIFE (if, granted, a fairly large one-- ~11" blade). As such, I think you pegged your expectations a little high there...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 14:22:20 GMT
Agreed. The Jie Dao was meant as a tool, and it was forbidden for use as a weapon. The weapons description gives it a large backstory. Unfortunately, even though it claims to be historically accurate, I can't find any historical examples of a Jie Dao.
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Post by Student of Sword on Feb 11, 2011 1:43:45 GMT
You won't find many historical facts about Shaolin Temple either? Many things that people cite in reference to the Shaolin Temple are nothing but myths and legends.
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Greg
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Post by Greg on Feb 11, 2011 7:36:14 GMT
Yeah, we'll you can't tell me they didn't fly. I saw an old movie where they flew and didn't speak English, so it must have been real. But, I thought that the Jie Dao was an interesting piece that, at the very least, gave me a break from looking a swords all day. (poor me)  |
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Post by LiamBoyle on Feb 11, 2011 10:56:05 GMT
It's a Chinese corn knife....  It would definitely fall more into the tool category than weapon category, but with an 11" blade it's a bit big to use as a replacement for my straight razor. :ugeek: |
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Post by Anders on Feb 15, 2011 3:04:39 GMT
I was glad that model popped up, actually, because I'd been wondering what those things are called for quite some time. (They show up on anime and manga on occasion.)
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Post by monk on Jan 12, 2013 20:53:13 GMT
I want the Jie Dao - the 11 inch one :geek:
spiritual as well as functional value
I could get a cold steel machete for a fraction of the cost - but it would not be the same in my mind -
I have to admit I am impressed with cold steel's machete prices & you can even order cod - not to mention see a review for almost any of their products on youtube
I have not been able to find a review on this product - I wouldn't want to tear one up either -
I'm sure it is exactly what I'm looking for & I'm sure the quality is perfect - :ugeek:
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Post by monk on Jan 20, 2013 1:06:11 GMT
Okay - I have one -
there is a book with it that says -"This item is intended for display & supervised martial arts use only"
it also says " it can disperse evils & our inner demons "
the handle is not very big around - It's like making a fist - you don't even Know it's in your hand - it's heavy for it's size - the blade is 6mm thick - comes with a poster
:ugeek: EYE PROTECTION :geek:
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