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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 10, 2011 1:49:01 GMT
The Marauder is a dream project for an weapon I would do if I could. s194.photobucket.com/albums/z240 ... g&newest=1 Small and a bit heavy hybrid of a sword and a broad axe with disposable "heads".The main work would be the shaft/body of the weapon made of tough-as-nails truck leaf spring wrapped in thick cow hide.Two plates steadily riveted/welded at one end making a space for the blade to get "sandwitched" and screwed in place...(sorry,I realize how this sounded).On the other end it would have quite an intimidating D-guard suitable for both trapping a blade and punching a hole into something/someone. The Marauder would (despite it's relatively small size) be mainly a two handed weapon.Right hand safely behind the D-guard and left one safely behind the blade's "beard?",making for some easy "quarter staff style" blocking.Or in need of nasty armor piercing,left hand on the tail/handle behind the axe head.Or you could load up with both hands,release the left one and take a one handed swing. If I am any kind of right about this, it would be a terrible weapon designed for a million cheap shots and wasting your opponent's years of training and polishing swordsmanship plus his life...but then again I could be wrong and the whole thing would be to much to handle and that would be the end of you. Don't be shy and tell me if I screwed up in my logic.
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Post by Talon on Jan 10, 2011 19:12:13 GMT
its a very interesting design i kind of like it id like to see the main axe shaft made from a steamed piece of wood to get the right shape and not sacrafice strength nice design though im not so sure that a good swordsman would have much trouble with it ,its got a relatively short haft and it would weigh a bit still it dos appeal to me ,top marks on the design though
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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 11, 2011 2:50:15 GMT
Thanks!!Would steamed wood be an equal option?That would be so convenient.I'd love it if I was told of a lighter but just as trustworthy material (when it comes to taking big hits) as the leaf spring I proposed.The shaft is the main of this thing after all. In my dreams it would be some titanium pipe(oval cross section) filled with carbon fiber and covered with cow hide just to make it look "traditional",I wouldn't mind that but it ain't gonna happen...sigh. I think I'll make a training version sometime and bring it to some sparring sessions,I'm pretty sure it will give me a big advantage.
P.S.Can someone tell me why I can't attach pictures directly and I have to post a link?FAQ didn't make it 100% clear...
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Post by sam salvati on Jan 12, 2011 18:42:12 GMT
Your design is totally doable, not too far into the impractical either, but your thickness would need to be thinned out a bit for the parts to make it practical. It would be perfect if you could get the entire haft and hilt cast from the same polymer they use for the cold steel bokken and bat and stuff, then it would work VERY well.
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Post by Talon on Jan 12, 2011 19:01:11 GMT
i dont think you;d need to go as far as titanium and carbon fibre,sams idea of the polymer that cold steel use is a good one i have theyre gunstock warclub and its as tough as old boots,i would personally still go the wood route for the haft(i always prefer wood and steel to plastics but thats just me) maybe laminated then steamed for strength,i do like the idea of replacement blades a lot maybe with different shaped blades good luck with the project though
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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 13, 2011 1:52:53 GMT
You mean polypropylene?I don't think It would do the job.Not even if you covered it with raw hide.I got one of their bokken,really good at taking impacts but you can scar the thing with your nail,it's as soft as wax.Plus it wobles and bends like crazy.And the Admin tested it already here: The titanium thing is just a dream scenario of course.Kinda like if I could get my hands on one of these but drop forged from "wrecking bar" tool steel instead of aluminum: It's called "the rebel".Just look at it,it's made for me!!It's got ridges and everything,surely better than a flat leaf spring.If only it wasn't aluminum.I could make a plaster model and have a cast iron one made(quite cheap too)but it would be brittle as glass so again a dead end.Anyways,I will get to it sometime arround spring when I go back to the village,I gots nothing here in the big city to work with...or on. Thank you kind masters for you guidance.Do give me more when you feel like it.
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Post by Anuan on Jan 16, 2011 12:01:30 GMT
I like it, it's neat As for polypropylene, though...I love my Cold Steel bokken, because it -is- very resiliant to impact, but only against its brother from the pair I purchased. It was called 'cut resistant,' but after just a little light testing with a training-blunt, I came to the conclusion that was a lie.
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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 16, 2011 19:37:53 GMT
Yup,not one bit of resistance towards even the slightest bit of sharpness.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 17, 2011 3:22:10 GMT
Yanni: hate to disappoint you but any competent swordsman would have no difficulty defeating your design with any type of sword. Having said that, pretty good design, I don't see why you don't just take one of those ice axes and redesign the blade and the handle to suit your needs?
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Post by ecovolo on Jan 17, 2011 6:51:06 GMT
When that happens, please post some photos? I know I want to see a mock-up of this weapon, for sure. And I'm *definitely* interested to see a finished product made of steel.
--Edward
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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 17, 2011 17:16:59 GMT
Maybe so,but I beg to differ...a lot.It sounds like you're saying "A sword wielder can surely beat a battle axe weilder".That's all the "Marauder" is practically,not too different from one of these in size,function and weight: www.aceros-de-hispania.com/battl ... ler-pef148 Thanks for the compliment.The shaft of the ice axe like I said is aluminum...it does me no good if it bends first time I block something.Plus these things cost a lot and I am cheap...Like,really reaaaally cheap.I've never passed the 100 euro (132.969 USD) budget for either buying a weapon or making one.
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Post by yanniskusogaki on Jan 17, 2011 17:54:50 GMT
Thanks Edward.Don't know if I will ever get to it seriously but I might try after I am done with my current piece (and a shield to match it).I would love it if my sparring partners didn't both turn to such wussies though.I need new ones 'cause these guys are getting old...and married.I'm stuck with being the immature nutcase hitting them with a wooden sword ...their girls don't want them to be seeing me too much and mine is taking their side.I mean I haven't had any in like a month (sparring I mean...).Anyways if it ever happens I'll make sure to post some pics(...of the weapon...).
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 18, 2011 11:18:07 GMT
From my experience, unless the axeman has a shield, yes a swordsman with a longsword will 9 times out of 10 beat him if the skill levels are roughly even. Reason being, the sword is lighter and faster in the change of direction. When two axemen fight each other it is all about who is better at changing direction and striking from unexpected angles and timing. Even with a shield the fight (sword vs axe) would be fairly even in their outcome. Out of ten bouts, depending on skill, the swordsman is most likely to come out on top.
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