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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2011 9:11:05 GMT
www.sword-buyers-guide.com/suppo ... d-care.pdf Go to the polishing section, anybody have experience using this method? One of my swords needs some scratches buffered out, but i would like some opinions before i attempt this. It doesn't seem too difficult to do, just run the paper in one consistent direction, til the scratches have scratched over, gradually switching over to the next grit, finish by scrubbing in metal polish with a scotch brite then windex to finish. Seems simple enough..though Ive never tried it before..
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Post by Hiroshi on Jan 8, 2011 7:55:37 GMT
That's pretty much it except for the scotch pad. If your talking abbot those scratchy pads used for cleaning it's a way bad idea. It'll just put more scratches into the blade. I suggest a soft wash cloth or a whammy or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 20:58:27 GMT
Anybody else have any input? I'm gonna attempt this on tuesday, im still kinda nervous.
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Post by chopper on Jan 11, 2011 0:50:21 GMT
I used Tom's method and on a spring steel katana blade and had good results. Link: www.sword-buyers-guide.com/sharpen-a-sword.htmlI started with about 600 grit, I think, and then moved up to 1500, then 2000, and finished up with 2500 grit. I used WD-40 as a lubricant. I also tore the 2500 grit into little squares and used them like finger stones. Just take you time. I think I would stay away from the scotch brite pads too. Results: Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 4:29:13 GMT
Nice, love that liquid shine. Bet you sigh a little in resignation before that first post-polish cut.
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Post by chopper on Jan 11, 2011 15:17:09 GMT
I cut some water jugs with it the other day. I don't think I even looked at the blade when I finished. If it scratches Im confident I can get them out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 21:17:26 GMT
www.myarmoury.com/feature_care.htmlAnother website saying i should get steel wool pad for scrubbing in the metal polish. I'll do the rag first and see what kinda result i get, and do the steel pad as a last resort.
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Post by chopper on Jan 12, 2011 0:08:35 GMT
Using the steel pad may be for giving the blade a satin polish. But don't quote me on that.
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Post by Hiroshi on Jan 12, 2011 0:27:32 GMT
any strong abrasive is a really bad idea if your trying to polish the blade.
A good rule of thumb: If it would hurt to wash your dangle with it, you shouldn't use it on your sword, or your dangle for that matter.
Speaking of rule of thumb,Name that quote? "You cant do much damage with that now can ya? Maybe it shoulda been the rule of wrist?"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 0:49:40 GMT
What did you use to get that mirror finish?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 1:01:48 GMT
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Post by chopper on Jan 12, 2011 1:25:56 GMT
The 2000 & 2500 grit paper gave me the mirror polish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 1:37:03 GMT
I couldn't find anything like that. I ended up using course, meduim and fine abrasive paper i got from autozone. Where can i find 2000-25k paper?
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Post by chopper on Jan 12, 2011 3:41:28 GMT
I had to get mine from a company in town that sold automotive paint. You may want to look for a business along those lines. I think they even had finer than 2500. I couldn't find it any where else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 7:37:45 GMT
That's rather inconvinient, i figured 1k-2k grit was easy to find, and my shopping would be over after a trip to home depot.
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Post by johnapsega on Jan 13, 2011 5:54:11 GMT
Sorry if this is off topic but that's from the boondock saints. One of the greatest movies of all time.
And so basically Just follow Toms method because I am about to do this for the first time as well and I'm pretty nervous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2011 16:37:38 GMT
It's somewhat the same idea as paint prepping a car, you gotta sand out the scratched areas as much as possible to make them flush and the polishing compound should take care of the rest and steel wool probably isn't a good idea, it's just gonna put you back at square one. Microfiber or a good lintless industrial towel should work pretty well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 1:38:17 GMT
So all Im missing his 2k and 2.5k grit paper? Seems like all i have to do now is just get really fine paper and apply the new scratches on top to polish it, then apply some more metal polish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 4:59:47 GMT
More or less. The purpose of using the grittier sand paper first is to sand away the excess metal where the gash is at then by switching higher and higher you're making the the gouge flush, not completely but it'd be minuscule at this point and that's what the polish and a soft non-lint cloth are for. As I said before, it's the same concept as paint prep on a car.
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Post by TomK on Jan 14, 2011 8:24:23 GMT
as for Hiroshi's dangle rule of thumb, well let's just say he let me polish and sharpen his sword on my belt sander moving at hundreds of surface feet per minute and he never so much as asked if I could polish his dangle with it and I don't think he'd do it on his own in private either, so that kinda shoots that rule. sorry buddy, that rule works for washing a sword but not polishing to restore from damage.
here's a bit of a post (slightly edited) from a recent discussion I was having with a fellow who wanted to polish some armor to a mirror finish. it all works the same way only the piece being polished is a different shape. so this works for swords too, you just gotta be more careful of the edges on swords than armor.
you could polish at a deep scratch with chrome polish, flitz, metal-glo, mothers, etc. or even light grit sand paper forever and still not fix it. you have to use something with a grain coarse enough to take the metal down to the lowest part of the scratch (in some cases you won't want to do that because a scratch can be so deep you'd have to make the piece so thin as to make it very delicate, so sometimes it is better to leave a deep flaw and just smooth it's edges a bit). so lets say you have to use 120 grit sand paper to get that scratch out. you will then have to polish the entire piece with 120 grit paper (if you really want it perfect). then you would have to polish the entire piece up to the next highest grit you can get which is probably 220. then you need to polish the entire piece up to the next grit which is probably 300 or 400. and keep progressing this way until you reach 2000 grit. after the 2000 grit if you wanted a true mirror polish you would need to go up to buffing pads and compound but if you can get higher grit papers and you have done a really good job of getting all those scratches in the past grit levels then you can get a mirror or semi mirror polish as low as 800 - 1000 grit, but the higher grit you can get and use the brighter the final polish. keep in mind that your lowest (coarsest) grit has to erase 100% of the flaw or you will never get it out all the way unless you go back down to that lowest grit or even lower. then the next grit you use has to erase 100% of the scratches made by the previous grit or you will never get those scratches out all the way and they will break up your mirror polish or leave it cloudy depending on what level of scratch pattern you failed to get out. of course this requirement to get all the scratches out continues all the way up to your 2000 grit (or whatever your finest grit level is) which must get every scratch from the 1500 (or previous) grit out. so that when you go to polish with your buffing machine there is no scratch on your piece that is deeper than 2000 grit (buffing machines are very optional on swords and can be very dangerous too, I advise compounds like flitz, mother's, etc.) also you need to make the pattern on every level of grit as tight and as uniform as possible and it helps to have it go in one direction only and for each level of grit to go perpendicular to the previous one (circles are not good do not polish in circles by hand). that way if you are going right to left and see a top to bottom scratch you know you haven't taken all the scratches out from the previous grit yet and you have more work to do. once you get to the 1000+ grit level it will be very difficult if not impossible to see the differences in the grit level of the scratches if they are going the same direction but if you don't get them all out at that level you will never attain a true mirror polish. this is why it is a good idea to alternate the direction of your polish with every grit level. it also breaks up a little of the monotony.
yes, this can take a very long time.
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