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Post by Kristie on Dec 30, 2010 15:45:52 GMT
Hi Everyone, Guns are not normally my thing, and I haven't owned any, but I saw this one in my Sportsman's Guide catalog and was wondering what some opinions might be on it. It caught my eye because I've never seen anything quite like it. It seems like black powder guns are becoming more popular for some reason. I don't know that I'd buy it, mostly because 350 bucks seems like an awful lot to spend on something I would likely never use. I guess I'm just curious about it. Here's the link: www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=750382
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 16:56:28 GMT
The only things I'm aware of that attract people to black powder are history and hunting. The interest in, or love of, historical firearms is a large draw - but obviously not applicable to this particular firearm since it's a modern design.
Many states have "black powder only" hunting seasons that get hunters into the field earlier in the season, or for more weeks. This was a factor that used to interest me greatly back when all black powder firearms were what are now called "primitive". Now we see people hunting with black powder rifles that are only different from a scoped, synthetic-stocked Remington 700 in the ignition system and propellant used. There isn't anything wrong with that - it just doesn't appeal to me.
All that being said, black powder firearms are generally less powerful than smokeless powder firearms of similar caliber. That and the slow reloading process makes them a less than ideal choice as a self-defense weapon IMO. Black powder firearms are a little more maintenance intensive than modern firearms using smokeless powder and non-corrosive primers. Real black powder, and most of the synthetic substitutes, leave a lot of residue.
The executive summary of this rant being: Unless your interest is in history or hunting, there is probably no compelling reason to go to black powder. Unless of course you just want to - No other justification required.
I don't know if this comes close to addressing anything you were wondering about. Just my .02.
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Post by Kristie on Dec 31, 2010 14:18:27 GMT
Interesting. Yeah, I was sort of intrigued from a historical point of view. I watched the product demo video for this one and was surprised that instead of pouring the powder down the barrel like you'd see in historical type movies, all you do is stick a plastic thing that has the powder in it into the end of the barrel. I'd never seen that before. Seems like a modern innovation to make reloading easier and faster. I wouldn't use this for anything but target shooting, that's for sure, but I did know that there was a hunting season specifiallyl for these. I hadn't thought about these being more maintenance intensive but that makes sense. I guess it's something I'd be interested in having more from a collection point of view more than anything, and in that case, it'd make more sense to buy an antique to be able to appreciate the history of it. I was also curious about what the opinion on this particular brand is, and if the fact that it's made in Spain (it's stamped on the barrel) means anything good or bad as far as quality of whatnot. Something like this is probably opening a can of worms for someone who's never owned a firearm and knows nothing about proper maintenance. Like I said, I'm just very curious about it and thought it looked unique.
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Post by whitefeathers on Dec 31, 2010 14:34:50 GMT
BP is not my thing, and I don't know much about them. The plastic thingy is a new thing, I forget what theyre called. I wonder if they are corrosive powder too.They make hunting alot easier. I know friends who have BP just to have the extra weeks in hunting season. I've gotten to fire a BP rifle the old way, pouring the powder in the barrel and it was fun for the history's sake. But cleanup sucked. Have to clean it pretty thorough if you don't want the bore to rust. Traditions brand is pretty popular they make all kinds of BP stuff. I haven't handled any of their guns so I cant give first hand experience
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Post by Kristie on Jan 1, 2011 14:19:10 GMT
Ah, it's sounding less interesting now. I think I'll stick to swords! I was going to ask you about this, whitefeathers, but I didn't know if you'd know about black powder. Thanks for the info.
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Post by whitefeathers on Jan 1, 2011 16:47:12 GMT
swords! :mrgreen: you're welcome. Honestly I haven't really messed with guns much since I've gotten the sword bug. Theres just something about the sword that just does it to you.
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Post by Kristie on Jan 1, 2011 18:59:15 GMT
Haha, yeah, I know!
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Post by tsafa on Jan 4, 2011 15:05:26 GMT
It does seem expensive. For that kind of money would would prefer something very traditional. Modern inline black powder guns usually run cheaper then traditional ones. I like this one better at Sportsmansguide www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/t ... x?a=264837 Also be sure to check out Cabela's. If you can time a sale, you can get a very good price. www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104503680 I have been looking for a Flintlock pistol for some time. I have been waiting for just the right sale.
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Post by Kristie on Jan 6, 2011 14:39:00 GMT
Yeah, that other one you found at Sportsman's Guide is a lot nicer, actuallly, but the price isn't much better. I'll take a look around Cabela's, just for the heck of it. I think it would take a real leap for me to get into collecting firearms, too. Having two expensive hobbies sounds like it'd be pretty conflicting for my credit card.
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Post by whitefeathers on Jan 6, 2011 15:06:43 GMT
[quote="Kristie" Having two expensive hobbies sounds like it'd be pretty conflicting for my credit card.[/quote] Trust me it is! :lol: I haven't bought a gun in almost 2 years. I've actually been selling guns to thin the herd down to my favorites. I just sold 2 today, paid myself back for the Nami iaito I got over Christmas. gotta fund the sword habit!
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Post by Kristie on Jan 6, 2011 15:25:09 GMT
Yes, funding the sword habit is always the top priority!
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