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Post by Freebooter on Dec 15, 2010 4:30:57 GMT
Hello all, I have just thought of the perfect sabre: I would like to have the handle, guard and all, of the 1913 Patton sabre/sword, with the tilt of the Indian model, with the blade of the 1860 Lt. Cav sabre. Great hand comfort and protecting, with the great blade of the 1860. I wonder how it would handle! FB
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Post by LittleJP on Dec 15, 2010 4:38:59 GMT
The tilt of the Indiam model? Little more on that?
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Dec 15, 2010 5:28:59 GMT
I think he refers to a pistol grip? :?
-Slayer
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Dec 15, 2010 6:17:52 GMT
I think this is more what he's referring to: Slightly canted, but not as full blown as a pistol grip which would, in all likelihood, destroy the usefulness of the 1860's slashing blade (I'm just guessing, since the only pistol gripped weapons I've seen are modern sport epees, which are strictly for thrusting). The grip of a 1913 and the blade of an 1860 would certainly be a sight.
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Post by LittleJP on Dec 15, 2010 6:25:30 GMT
Ah, personally, I'd most likely prefer a smallsword grip if I am doing the thrust, though I'd prefer the D cup guard of the 1860 cutlass, with the blade of a shamshir. Slashing power all the way.
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Post by Freebooter on Dec 15, 2010 16:18:20 GMT
The Indian model I referred to is just that. India adapted the Patton sabre at that time, but as the U.S. Patton sabre's handle was straight and lined up with the blade, or maybe at a ever so slight slant, the Indians made theirs with more of an angle to the handle or hilt.
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Post by bloodwraith on Dec 15, 2010 16:36:14 GMT
Perfect sabre in my opinion, a yatagan sabre with a simple D guard or a more elaborate guard. You get the speed of a sabre, the ferocious cutting power of a khukuri and you a get guard to keep your digits safe. Go with a slightly curved handle and you enhance the cutting power exponentially if you know how to utilise such a grip to maximum effect.
As to pistol grips, if you learn how to use the proper cutting motion with it, it can enhance the cutting, same as what I suggested with the curved handle. However from horseback I think it would be counter productive.
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Post by Freebooter on Dec 15, 2010 16:49:57 GMT
Hello all, Here is what I am talking about. Look at the pic of the Patton sword with its relatively straight handle, and look at the Indian Cavalry model with its angled handle. I like that. Seems to me it is more manouverable with a handle like that and you would not have to bend your wrist as much for a straight thrust. FB Attachments:
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Post by bloodwraith on Dec 15, 2010 16:56:33 GMT
here is a perfect example of what I am talking about;
Though the handle could curve a little more. Just my opinion as an unrepentant yatagan lover.
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Post by Anders on Dec 15, 2010 20:25:57 GMT
I've tried to design my "perfect saber" as well, which resulted in "the Spaniard", version 1 and 2: So called because it's heavily based on various Spanish cavalry sabers, but with a lot of my own favourite traits added. It's meant to be a mid-weight and easily fencible yet very cut-oriented sword.
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