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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2010 7:45:27 GMT
I read in the review of the G2 Pompeii gladius, that the shape of the grip was round, as if turned on a lathe, which made for difficult handling. Does anyone know if the grip used in the G2 Maintz gladius (which looks similar) is round in the same fashion or is in fact the same grip component being used for both swords. Also If anyone knows how easy it is to work with a rounded pommel nut, like on the Maintz gladius, with regards to removing it or re tightening it without marking it up, since, in the pictures it appears to be rounded.
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Post by RicWilly on Nov 20, 2010 8:07:01 GMT
The grip on the Gen2 mainz is round. I don't think either the mainz or the pompeii can be disassembled without distroying the pommel and grip as it's my understanding that the assembly is epoxied or glued together as well as screwed on. The pompeii is as such for sure. I saw a thread on another forum that took one apart. I assume the mainz is the same.
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Post by ghost on Nov 20, 2010 8:12:00 GMT
I think you may be right that both round lathe grips are the same on both the G2 pompeii and Maintz. sbgswordforum.proboards.com/inde ... read=11904 I have the G2 pompeii taken a while ago off KoA's scratch and dent. I went to a customization thread on myarmoury that Luke Zechman did a while back and it seems that the wooden pommel is loctited or epoxied onto the threads. I also wanted to carve a bone grip myself. www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic ... sc&start=0 It seems very likely that you will have to destroy the wooden pommel or boil it until it loosens up. I have tried twisting it off with all my strength (6 ft 225 gym junkie here) and it didn't budge. I didn't go as far to clamp and torque wrenching it off since this would likely just break/ twist off the pommel and threaded portion of the tang. I want to save the black massacar pommel since it is well done... so I have never gotten around to removing it. I read somewhere that rounded grips on Gladii are historically accurate - I guess the Romans didn't care for what was used primarily as a thruster, or oriented according to the guard, or perhaps we are more progressive minded These faceted grips seem to be a modern addition? edit: guess Ric beat me to it; thread above;
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Post by ghost on Nov 20, 2010 8:16:45 GMT
btw Ric, you have the G2 Pompeii as well and is it just me or is the blade kinda thick? Are your other gladii about this thick as well?
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Post by RicWilly on Nov 20, 2010 8:53:40 GMT
Ghost, I never noticed the Pompeii being especially thick, the AOV website puts the Gen2 blades at 3/16 but some of the ones I have seem thicker. At any rate the Gen2 pompeii doesn't appear to be quite as thick as my KC Gladius to my eye, tho the KC is a heavy gladius for sure. The Pompeii does look thicker than my Windlass mainz. This all should be taken with a grain of salt as I have no calipers and am just going by my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 21:02:31 GMT
Thanks for the good info guys, I'm now kind of on the fence about that sword. I wanted to carve a heavy bone, or possibly moose antler handle for it, but if just disassembling it is going to all but destroy the pommel and nut, then I'm kind of dissuaded, not that i couldnt probably complete the project. As for the Kris cutlery "roman gladius", same question about the pommel nut, how tricky is it to remove without causing damage? I ask because it appears to be brass, and I've had brass pommel nuts come loose and out right strip their threads before. aka i would replace the brass pommel nut with steel asap providing there is no extensive monkey business to its hilt construction.
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Post by chrisperoni on Nov 22, 2010 22:09:33 GMT
If you do choose to carve a new grip from bone, choose your piece well. It's tough to work with and a bummer if something goes wrong. Last week I lost many many hours of work to a 'bubble' in the bone. I was about 3/4 of the way done shaping a beautiful grip for my glad and all of a sudden there was this tiny hole; which ended up revealing a 1" inch by .5" cavity right in the middle of the bone. It was looking so damn good too- scalloped and contoured for my hand, with a hexagonal shape. I've since spent too much time looking for another suitable piece of bone...
Anyway, brass is relatively soft and more likely to strip if the other half of whats threaded is a stronger metal but this isn't something that I've ever really worried about when making my own screws and tapping and all that. It shouldn't present a problem so long as the thread sizes match and you're not constantly screwing and unscrewing. It's more likely that the outside of the brass nut would show scratches/damage- if you have to use a tool to remove it keep something between the tool and nut like a piece of leather etc.
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Post by William Swiger on Jun 19, 2013 18:31:33 GMT
G2 Pompeii Gladius is on sale at KOA.
UPDATE: Looks as if they sold the surplus ones and no longer on sale.
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