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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 14:32:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 15:29:56 GMT
Hi Hydro., thanks for the pix.. had been drooling abt it ever since it appeared but I could only drool cos I'm not sure if I could get it into my country without problem with the customs... had ask zinje if he ever shipped one here but so far no reply from him Just curious, is the blade really folded & damascened, or is the blade simply etched with damascus pattern....? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 15:41:43 GMT
Just curious, is the blade really folded & damascened, or is the blade simply etched with damascus pattern....? I don't know. I asked the same question in the "Irate About Damascus" thread in the cafe. I hope Zenji can get one to you. I'm really happy with it so far (I just got it yesterday). The only criticism I have at this point is that - and this seems to be common - the wrap on the saya is VERY shoe laceish. I'm sure the ito is the same material, but it's wrapped so tight that it loses the shoe laseness. This isn't a big deal to me, but I guess it might BECOME a big deal if I buy other katana that use a better wrap. I used to have a roommate that had what this forum refers to as a SLO. When guests would see it they would immediately light up, then back way down when they picked it up. They would invariably then refer to it as "neat." I didn't want something people would call "neat", I wanted something with a little bit of a "WOW" factor. I think that's what I got.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 16:04:19 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Hydro. O, let me clarify: I haven't ordered any from Zinje yet as all the Musashi comes razor-sharped; I just wan to know if he ever shipped any of the sharpened katana to any of my fellow Singaporean successfully; if yes, then i would be gladly put in my orders, too ;D
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on May 23, 2007 16:34:14 GMT
Yep, that certainly is a WOW, sort of Katana. Very, very pretty, and being a Musashi I'm sure its very functional but I'm still not sure about whether it's pattern welded or not...
I wan't one, though...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 16:50:28 GMT
folded steel and damascus are two differant things folded steel is what japanese swords are made from most retailers advertise japanese style swords as damascus (pattern) katana as it does kind of look like it but it isnt it is how ever most likely folded steel
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 23:23:29 GMT
thats a fine looking katana boyo, nice pictures too. I rather like the damascus look on a katana, It is much more prominent then a jihada
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2007 14:21:43 GMT
Thanks y'all.
Other than pics of the katana on a stand, what am I missing? Any picture requests?
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Post by jpfranco on May 24, 2007 14:52:06 GMT
Love the blade patterns Nice pics and congrats on your new acquisition.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2007 2:20:28 GMT
Wait, so is this musashi katana folded or not? It looks it but I'm not certain.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2007 4:49:38 GMT
Wait, so is this musashi katana folded or not? It looks it but I'm not certain. It looks folded, but it's hard to tell. In folded blades, thin layers of steel are literally folded over one another and basically welded together in the forge. In "damascus" or pattern-welded blades, bars or strips of steel are twisted, hammered, and then welded together in the forging process. In some cases, it's easy to visually tell the difference, such as when you can see all sorts of realy intricate, repeating patterns in pattern-welded "damascus" steel, or when you can clearly see the individual layers in a folded blade. This one defies my ability to positively ID it one way or the other.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2007 5:34:00 GMT
kriegschwert is correct theres a big difference between folded and damascus. That looks folded to me,advertisers tend use the term damascus because more people know the word.Generally folded steel is very fine layers that you can barely see while damascus is much bolder.I recently repolished a Global G series blade (which I wouldnt be surprised if they come from the same forge as this one)once you get rid of the heavy etching the folds are actually very subtle and more traditional looking. Heres a pic on how the folding is done traditionaly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2007 14:06:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2007 15:49:09 GMT
I have a question about this sword. I have heard that this sword gets it's Damascus type Hada because they wrap metal barbs around a regular blade and then heat them to melt and fuse the two metals together. Thus giving the appearance of a folded sword. A real Hand folded sword would cost a lot more then that sword so I have to think it would be machine folded. I am not trying to steal your thunder but I have seen this blade for 200ish all over the place. I personally love the design but I have often wondered if it was really folded. I cant find a true forge folded or pattern wielded blade for under 250 bucks anywhere. Ronin swords makes a cheap folded blade and its Hada look way different, I know they do it right. No offense but the Hada on your blade looks very fake and non traditional of a true folded or pattern wielded blade.
Anyone know if this blade is a true folded blade? I was under the impression that any sword advertised with the word Damascus in the title was a huge warning sign. I have thought about buying this sword and maybe the Ryumon(Masahiro) equivalent for the same price. It is just hard to believe that these blades are folded for that price considering you pay for the box it comes in and the cleaning kit. You get maybe $60 worth of blade and the rest is worthless.
Was your blade made at the Made at the Zhou Zheng Wu (Chris Zhou) Forge? Did you buy it off of Ebay or from Musashi? Do you like the product placement on the Habakki? I got to think you could have bought a Ronin for less or a tad more for a less commercial forged sword that was folded and clay tempered. I saw your sword selling for a sale price of $199 on Musashi's site and 160 on ebay. From what I have read it is not a true folded blade and only has a cosmetic Hada.
Since the pictures make it hard to tell what is your opinion on the blade?
Again not trying to be rude just blunt. You never see honest opinions anymore. I will be the first to tell anyone all the flaws in my blades and I can admit that I have made some bad decisions when it comes to sword buying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 18:41:27 GMT
great looking sword hows it do with cutting
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2007 15:14:32 GMT
how would you be able to tell can you cut the blade in half and examine the inside to see if there layers like on the outside do i think its makes a nice looking sword but i wouldnt bet my life on it only because of all the bad press damascus blades get
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 12:56:04 GMT
Right first of all it is not a damascus blade, damascus steel was a mono steel, this kind of steel is pattern welded. Second of all the only bad thing about pattern welded steel is if the folds aren't done properly the pattern welds become weakened rather than cohesive which means every funny little squiggle becomes a potential weak spot. Having said that just because a blade is inexpensive and pattern welded does not mean that it is necessarily crap. We now return you to your regular sword review.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 13:17:53 GMT
right if its not properly tempered i think its called carbon migration where the different steel seperates you can loook it up on one of the highlander web pages it has a list of the different types of steel used to make swords
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 14:31:20 GMT
yep i know about carbon migration just didn't want to get to technical about the explanation
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 13:25:38 GMT
all in all though musashi is trying to make a name for them selves and has done it so far maybe not with fittings but the blades do perform well for the money and im sure they wouldnt put a product out that was going to fail repeatedly so i would say in all honesty i think its a very nice sword that i would use for light duty cutting and display anything more you might be pushing it all in all a good buy for the money
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