LiamBoyle
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 20, 2010 14:55:23 GMT
I'm having to do a research paper for my Comp Class (part of the joys of being a 37 year old college student, I don't have as much available research time as other) and my prof approved me to write on the satirical topic of "Why we should legalize dueling."
I'm needing some assistance of finding sources for historical rules of dueling, preferably non-firearm. Suggestions and links will be greatly appreciated, especially links to things like Fechtbucher and other primary historical documents.
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Post by Reflingar on Oct 20, 2010 18:45:44 GMT
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 20, 2010 20:49:25 GMT
I went to the Arma website but they had taken some of the down loadable texts I was looking for off their site. I did snag a decent article about Talhoffer's conditions for dueling.
The isidore-of-seville site looks to be a decent link. Thanks.
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Post by LittleJP on Oct 20, 2010 22:01:03 GMT
Oh, this'll be an interesting paper, mind posting it later?
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Post by D'artagnan on Oct 20, 2010 22:14:30 GMT
If you google the Code Duello, its a list of rules and customs surrounding 15th and 16th century dueling
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 20, 2010 22:22:25 GMT
LittleJP, I plan on it once the paper is done, but that will be around the 15th of November. D'artagnan, I've got the Code Duello but I'm looking for some more information exclusive to sword dueling. The Code makes allowances for swords, but I'm looking more for reasons when it is proper to ask for a duel. We can't have people whipping out swords at the drop of a hat now can we?  |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 20, 2010 22:36:03 GMT
Actually, Liam, from what I remember, in many cases, a duel was appropriate for something as little as if someone felt their honor had been offended, meaning people could be whipping out swords if they felt some other man was giving their woman an 'inappropriate glance', so I think what you're actually thinking of is Trial by Combat, wherein a legal matter was settled through a duel, with the winner being proclaimed in the right.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 20, 2010 23:27:54 GMT
I would recommend getting the last duel by eric jager. It's quite good and details the last legal judicial duel in France. If you have any issues getting the book, PM me and I can loan it to you (not sure if the book is still in print).
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 21, 2010 0:49:53 GMT
Okay, I had started to attach a poll but that put things in the realm of the political, so I removed the poll myself.
Vincent, it depends which set of Duelling rules you look at. The Viking Holmgang was used to settle legal disputes, some dueling in the Middle Ages was used for civil legal disputes, whereas "trial by combat" was more for criminal accusations. However, this is where research comes in to make certain my facts are straight.
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 21, 2010 8:59:33 GMT
Thanks Jim, the bottom of the Wiki had a link to Dobringer in .PDF form.
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 21, 2010 23:34:15 GMT
Thanks. I think I'm done gathering sources now. I have and article on Talhoffer, Dobringer's Fechtbuch, the Code Duello, four part article series on the Holmgang, and a couple of articles on civil litigation and benefits of martial arts training. Oh, and the "Book of Five Rings." I can't write anything about dueling without that.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 21, 2010 23:43:57 GMT
Then get to work, man! You could change society with that paper! Move, move, move! :lol:
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Post by LiamBoyle on Oct 21, 2010 23:48:17 GMT
I am, but just you try read a 60+ legal .pdf with case law excerpts in one sitting Compared to that Musashi is a breeze. |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 21, 2010 23:55:21 GMT
Um... I think I have a date to have my eyes gouged and that sounds infinitely more pleasant, so I'll leave you to it. |
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