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Post by LittleJP on Nov 7, 2010 18:05:11 GMT
Nothing replaces an actual course with someone who knows what they're doing.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Nov 7, 2010 18:12:50 GMT
No, but you work with what you can; I've got nothing but belt factories for Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and MMA for 60 miles, so DVDs, here I come.
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Post by MEversbergII on Jan 7, 2011 20:27:34 GMT
Went back up to 60 bucks last I checked. I think I missed the "sale" by a day M.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 8, 2011 21:47:08 GMT
The thing that bugs me about the Cold Steel videos, all of them, is they're basically to some degree massive advertisments for CS products. I mean, that should be obvious, coming straight from the company like they do, I just wish it wasn't quite so overt. "Look, here I'm going to do a moulinet with this 1798 Light Cavalry Saber! Now watch as this guy comes at me with a Pipe Hawk!"
Of course, I'm sure the training videos are a little less egregious in this regard than the ones that basically consist of Lynn Thompson and assorted CS staff chopping random things up with their product line, but it still bugs me. They have some really silly-seeming videos, too; who the heck would pack a Sjambok on a regular basis? It might be nice to know how to fight with one, but honestly. The worst one, to me at least, is 'The Fighting Sarong'. In which Ron Balicki teaches you how to fight with a sarong. Might be useful... if I wore a sarong on a regular basis... which I don't, and I certainly haven't seen many people going about in sarongs lately...
And then let's not get into the videos that're basically hunting documentaries of Lynn Thompson running about in Africa and Australia to shoot water buffalo, warthogs, whatever. In "Death Down Under", the advertising says he shoots 100 animals... in a 1-hour video. Clips I've seen show him helicoptering in and then basically walking up to the animals and shooting them down. That's just something I can't wrap my head around; it's pretty repugnant to me.
I do agree that the majority of CS products are perfectly fine, and I imagine most of the training videos are decent enough (though I question the logic of learning how to throw a saber...), but the rest of CS's videos are far better off left well alone.
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Post by Freebooter on Jan 8, 2011 22:50:02 GMT
Hello, Yep, you are right about that. In my "Fighting with the Saber and Cutlass" DVD they will talking about this move or that move and what "not" to do, then he (Anthony DeLongis) will say something like "Cold Steel makes a beautiful sabre, and it is an investment, you don't want to do that to it!" That does not bother me though, but like you said, I have always detested "canned" hunts, whether some high dollar "ranch" in Texas or Afrka. FB
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Post by Anders on Jan 11, 2011 16:23:40 GMT
I've been wanting to get a hold of this DVD set for ages. My brother tried to get me it for Christmas, as was apparently even in contact with Kult of Athena, but they were sold out.
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Post by Freebooter on Jan 12, 2011 0:09:58 GMT
I got mine from MRL
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Post by Anders on Jan 13, 2011 13:59:23 GMT
Success! I managed to get a hold of it now! Seen about a quarter of it, and so far I think its a pretty good introduction to the basics and I've already picked up on techniques I didn't know about before.
I particularly like the little tips and explanations Anthony de Longis tosses in once in a while.
I don't really mind the ill-concealed advertisement. Far stranger is Thompson's heavy implication that this is an instruction video for using a saber or cutlass for self defense. He seriously makes it sound as if this is a great fighting style for when you are jumped on the street or need to fight off a burglar.
Now, I know it takes all kinds, but I seriously doubt anyone who wants to learn to use a cavalry saber does so with self defense in mind. Not unless you are freaking John Carter, anyway.
There is one thing I found really odd about the advertisement aspect, though, that it's that they are clearly implying you should use Cold Steel products for this, but they also specify that they are using aluminum training blades. This is despite the fact that, as far as I can tell, Cold Steel do not sell such trainers.
Heck, where do I get an aluminum replica of a 1830 Napoleonic cavalry saber? I haven't really seen any of those around. :?:
In fact, Cold Steel doesn't sell any training weapon that corresponds to the weapons used in this instruction video, not even in that fancy polypropylene waster line of theirs. So even if I have both this video and one of their sabers, how am I supposed to actually train?
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 13, 2011 14:23:40 GMT
Actually, it's not all that strange since he does it in almost all his videos; if I remember right, he suggests using their Great Sword to fend off burglars who invade your home. Yep, just rewatched the Great Sword video and his exact words are "No one is going to be able to take advantage of you when you have a Great Sword by Cold Steel in your house." He even suggests putting it by the front door. Compared to that, using a saber for self-defense is much more reasonable, don't you think?
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Post by LittleJP on Jan 13, 2011 14:46:37 GMT
You can't argue it'd certainly make a great self defense weapon if someone came at ya with a knife. If you for some reason had it on your person.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 13, 2011 15:05:16 GMT
If you had their Great Sword on your person, you wouldn't have to worry about someone coming at you with a knife. You'd only have to worry about the cops.
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Post by chuckinohio on Jan 13, 2011 15:17:17 GMT
You wouldn't have to worry about the cops, unless you refused to lay it on the ground when instructed to do so.
Even then you wouldn't have to worry about them too much, assuming of course that you dont mind 50,000 volts of persuasion. The voltage of the Stun Gun, if the probes hit your blade, may mess up the temper though, so I wouldn't risk refusing.
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Post by LittleJP on Jan 13, 2011 15:19:23 GMT
Sign number 24 of a true sword lover.
You put your weapon down, not because you're afraid of being tased. You're afraid the taser will mess with the temper of the blade.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 13, 2011 15:51:14 GMT
I wouldn't refuse, either. 50,000 certainly seems enough to ruin a temper and I wouldn't want that to happen to any of my swords; mind, I'd never have the great sword in the first place, but that's hardly the point.
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Post by Freebooter on Jan 14, 2011 3:48:16 GMT
Yep, I would prefer a sabre. With a Sabre, you don't have to go wide open with great swings and all. You can use it up close and personal. Just finish watching the CS video about Fighting wth Sabre, etc.. Also, watch this: ... re=related , this guy demonstrates something very similar to what they do in the later sections of the CS video set. Btw, I would love to have that scimitar that guy has. Let me think of what you think of it. Freebooter
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Post by LittleJP on Jan 14, 2011 4:00:47 GMT
It's a lovely Tulwar, I'm sticking with my shamshir and my customized 1796 light sabre.
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Post by Freebooter on Jan 14, 2011 4:24:18 GMT
I have only one of those types; MRL's scimitar, but it is actually identicle to CS's Shamshir except for color and make up of grip. and have my 1860 Cavalry Sabre. Either one I could fight with, held out or up close like we were just talking about.FB
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Post by Ceebs on Jan 15, 2011 22:18:29 GMT
This is something that bugged me as well. I'd much rather they take a general approach and talk more about fighting a skilled opponent.
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Post by MEversbergII on Jan 18, 2011 8:18:49 GMT
So I got it. I was expecting (before people spoke about it above) a lesson on classical fencing (Having been educated that DeLongis did classical fencing). I'm about a half hour in and its already making me a bit leery. I'll watch it all the way, and maybe I'll have something I've learned in messer or the military sabre manual I have clarified. Or not. We'll see.
M.
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Post by Freebooter on Jan 18, 2011 18:04:49 GMT
In the early and even mid part of the DVD set, there are some dull or boring moments to those of us already familiar with Cooke's Sabre Tackics, etc. But it is the latter half I like, which has more close up things, grappling, disarming, other ways of using the sabre other than just swinging it. I liked it. I like Anthony Delongis.
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