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Post by sam salvati on Oct 11, 2010 4:06:41 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 11, 2010 6:51:28 GMT
I'll see you that, Sam, and raise you this: Sorry, the look your face just made me laugh. :lol:
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Post by whitefeathers on Oct 11, 2010 13:01:47 GMT
Laughing at the facial expression! Yes I also have an 870 that resides loaded by the bed along with a pistol and a sword
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Post by sam salvati on Oct 12, 2010 3:41:59 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Oct 12, 2010 20:56:37 GMT
Cool 870 Sam. I hadn't seen one with the new XS Sights rib and sight setup. That looks very useful. Looks like you got the state-of-the-art in current combat shotguns. Rock on!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 22:22:11 GMT
Very nice Sam!
Congrats.on your acquisition.
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Post by sam salvati on Oct 12, 2010 23:54:30 GMT
Thanks guys. FJager, after test shooting birdshot in 7 8 9 sizes, then "00" buck then rifled slugs on a piece of 1/4 thick steel plate, it is obvious the rifled slugs are man and beast stoppers for sure. I'll have photos uno minuto. I'm not so much a tactical man, I just like things with the "pans wetting" effect and look Mike, I love the sights, no adjustment needed from factory for me either. It's a great gun, right out of the box it is ready to go too with nice tacticool features. I might only shorten the stock, I hate those aK style stocks but the adjust ability would be nice. Thanks sparky!!!
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Post by sam salvati on Oct 13, 2010 0:16:50 GMT
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Post by KingDonut on Oct 13, 2010 11:26:30 GMT
Don't waste your money on snap-caps. I've read plenty that dry-firing won't hurt modern shotguns.
For reloading drills, you can use spent shells.
Get a sling. TWO-point, not the trendy single-point slings, those are only good for short carbines. Also avoid the ones that hold shells; the last thing you want when trying to maintain steady aim is a bunch of lead weights swinging freely beneath the gun. I suggest the Spec-Ops Master Blaster sling as it's long, comfortable, and spring-tensioned. They now come with the option of sling-swivels, but choosing that depends on what stock you get since the current one has no mounting point. Speaking of which...
Get a better stock. The factory stock just doesn't have the same shock absorption and comfort as others. I use a Choate Mk6, which I swear by. Some may find it bulky and long. Another good suggestion is the Hogue youth stock; being shorter it makes the gun quicker to shoulder.
If using the gun for HD, invest in a plain Improved Cylinder choke and replace the breacher choke. It's not a real breacher. It would snap off if stressed and adds unneeded length to the gun.
Those sights are great. Mine's the basic Express model, so I just have a front bead. Yours are better than you'll ever need to have. I wouldn't waste the money on getting ANY form of optic. The quality ones are friggin' EXPENSIVE, and the affordable ones lose zero if you breath too hard. lol.
More importantly than all of those combined, is BUY AMMO and GO SHOOTING. Last time I managed to go, there was still snow on the ground. Ugh.
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Post by whitefeathers on Oct 13, 2010 12:41:57 GMT
shooting is something i need to do more of. My 870 is the express super mag. Walmart special when i was in TN. I will never buy a gun from Walmart again. The bimbos behind the counter had no idea what they were doing. The process took way longer than it should have. I changed my front sight to one of those yellowish greenish glowy things. I dont shoot shotgun much, its mainly here for HD.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 21:09:34 GMT
SWEET 870, Sam! That's the same model I have, but mine has evolved a little. I first replaced the standard buttstock with a Speedfeed pistol grip. ...and most recently replaced the breaching attachment with an improved cylinder Remchoke tube, and added a SureFire fore end. This is just a photo-shopped composite of what it looks like now. I'm still shopping for a new sling arrangement that suits me, since I'll need a side mount to avoid blocking my light. Trick yours out as best suits your needs. It'll take good care of you when you need it.
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Post by sam salvati on Nov 9, 2010 23:14:48 GMT
SOO, that's a nice 870, I was thinking of upgrading to just a pistol grip but for serious HD or anything really except looking cool you need a stock and the speedfeed looks real good. I went to the range today and shot some bowling pins: www.facebook.com/v/1648942034382
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2010 0:38:09 GMT
Nice!
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Post by ShooterMike on Nov 10, 2010 0:57:54 GMT
Looks like fun Sam. Congratz on getting out and having fun with your 870.
One thing I noticed was what sounded like you "short stroking" the action. That leads to incomplete ejection of empties and ties up the gun a bit. If that's actually what happened during those hesitations, I suggest practicing not to short stroke the action. You can do that by dry-firing and concentrating on slamming the action forcefully all the way to the rear, then slamming it forcefully forward to close the action. Basically, work it as hard as you can in both directions. This will build muscle memory to always forcefully cycle the action. And don't worry about damage to your 870. They are very tough.
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Post by sam salvati on Nov 10, 2010 3:23:33 GMT
Mike, you are 100%. I was racking it like a 12 year old girlscout, I DO need to get into the habit of rackin' it like I got a pair. It happened on the 6th shot, the empty shell got caught. It did that twice, both on the 6th shot because I would hesitate for the last target, I'd get the pins then the plate. I'll remember to bring 7 pins next time.
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Post by Mikeeman on Nov 10, 2010 18:23:12 GMT
I also have the 870 SuperMag. Someone recommended using spent shells for practice. That's not really a great idea. When you pick up a spent shell you will notice that the end has unfolded and is wider than the rest of the shell. It will get some dirt in your gun from picking them up off of the ground and will jam easier.
I wouldn't cut the stock. And it's a typical shotgun stock. If anything, buy a different one.
Skeet shooting is one of the most fun things to do. We had one of those "Flinger" things that you put inside of a tire. I can't even imagine the amount of boxes of clay pidgeons I've been through...
What is the point of a laser sight on a shotgun? Pistol: yes, Rifle: yes, Shotgun? Unnecessary. Even with a slug, you should have no problem aiming. Just seems like overkill to me.
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Post by ShooterMike on Nov 23, 2010 2:51:51 GMT
Hey Sam (and everyone else). Here's an old video I put up 2+ years ago showing a bit of speed(ish) shooting with a Remington 870 Police Magnum on 5 Pepper Poppers. Note the "short-stroking" on the first run. The audio has been killed by youtube, but the visual is OK. At the end it shows the time of the last run, 2.24 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 23:50:00 GMT
Try this the four in the gun are #8 shot in my house it hits as hard as a slug but wont kill the neighbors next in the bandoleer buckshot,buckshot, slug, slug, flare(if I cant penetrate body armour I will get them to get out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2010 16:17:06 GMT
"Flare" - I love it!
Back in the early 90's I once set my police department's range on fire with some kind of non-lethal distraction round we got as a trial from a vendor. It was intended (so we were told) to blind and distract our adversaries when making a dynamic entry into a linear objective like an airplane or bus. I've long since forgotten the technical aspects of the round, but it basically just fired a pattern of what looked like tiny sparks suspended in burning plasma from the sun. It was spectacular!(and was supposed to be non-incendiary) Except: If I set the wooden target frames and cardboard target backs, and grass on an outdoor range on fire, does anyone see an issue with using this on a bus or airplane? It was fun, though.
I've seen lot's of variations on "battlecarry loadout" for home defense. Everyone has their own version based on their own preferences, best guess of likely scenarios, the layout and construction of their residence, etc.
For what it's worth, I keep six rounds in the magazine - first up - two #7 1/2 birdshot; next -two #4 buck; finally - two rifled slugs. Two more rifled slugs are in the "outside" (right) of the Speedfeed stock, and two more #4 buck in the "inside" (left) of the Speedfeed.
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Post by whalozan on Dec 9, 2010 3:51:38 GMT
Nice setup and I like your round selection. I have a few suggestions on buckshot and slug selection. Pattern your gun to see which type works best, get a couple different types of buckshot (4B, OO, and OOO) from different vendors and take them to the range and pattern them on a large cardboard. My shotgun (Ithica) takes OO and has some very interesting patterns with 4B and OOO,ie all over the place. Where as my brothers 870 patterns OOO. I believe it is harmonics in the barrel that make the difference. Different vendors also make a difference. Try BBR saboted slugs, now owned by Winchester, more expensive but my shotgun will put all rounds in pie plate at 100 yards, thru a smooth bore with only a bead sight. Huge difference in accuracy from the rifled slugs.
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