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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 9:40:46 GMT
I mean, how often is someone going to spend $1000.00+ on a sword and then beat the holy hell out of it just to see if it'll break? Wow, sorry, less coffee in the evening I think. -John Look John, I was of the same mind BEFORE ! Before you ask, yes before, before I saw the guarantee on these little babies. www.martialartswords.com/product_info.php?products_id=39Lifetime, LIFETIME guarantee. What else in life now-a-days do you get a life time guarantee on ? Bloody zippo lighters , thats it ! Until now. Now how to get the money ? maybe pay kids down street to steal car then put clai...... whoah ! Thinkin' out loud again, must review medication. Seriously I know it is out of our range, but to have one of these babies in my hand would be a bit like a challenge. I can do some pretty mean cutting when I'm in a durge and I would always have in the back of my mind " Oh stuff it , if it breaks. I'll just send it back " CHOP ! ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 14:35:51 GMT
That is a wonderful sword, but OUCH on the price and then everything costs more as you customize, an extra $60 for getting the handle wrapped in leather. another $200 for the tsuba you could spend $4,000 easy with that sword.
ohh the things I would own if I won the lottery or managed to get rich,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 15:30:45 GMT
heres a youtube review of the L6
and another interesting sword
and a heres a crazy guy u dont want to meet in a cold dark ally
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 19:12:22 GMT
The problem I had with the reviews is, this line of Gen2 swords best feature is their durability (in my opinion and probably in the manufacturers opinion - maybe Clyde will respond to this), yet was almost completely ignored. First and foremost I have to bow to each of you in humility. I honestly say THANKS! I have read the reviews on MyArmoury. On the Lucerne yes they could have been said a little more on the durability. But he did say 1 line about how well it feels and balances. On the 12th Century I don't know. But I shipped thee swords to him back Sept. last year and there has been some more improvements but it would not matter now until I put another one in his hands, and I may well do just that after a few more tweaks. But to read all the post of just yesterday and today and how quick all of you were to pick up and the post you have made I am still at a loss for words. Each of you do see the qualities that have have been preserving in our line. And at any time I would be glad to put up a Gen 2 against any of their $600.00 + swords, but I do believe they would still run to the defense of the higher end sword even if ours came out un-scathed. And I wonder as one customer who also post in MyArmoury (he does love our swords) he stated "Even if you did everything they asked, would they not still find something to complain about? I wonder....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 19:27:00 GMT
Here is also a reply (and I do not remember who in this post) (Must quit working long hours), but the swords of today are better than most of the originals. And to prove it (and some people at MyArmoury must re-read) it was posted not long ago about blade hardness. Most of the originals tested were not hardened very well and there was allot of inconsistencies up and down the blade. Here is the link for the post: www.myarmoury.com/feature_bladehardness.htmlSo given that fact that the sword are better and more consistent, would that not even more so with the Gen 2 blade given our durability? Just food for thought.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 20:16:33 GMT
If I had the money I would get an Albion or one of their "high-end" swords and do a Paul-ish destruction test, I have seen Gen2 blades take some serious punishment and not flinch.
but then maybe a blind eye would be turned to it because how would they feel if they paid $1,000 - $3,000 for a sword that may not be able to take the same damage as one of our "beaters" I believe they where called.
John said " I've several times read where someone has just purchased a nice, higher end sword, and when queried on how it cuts reply; "I don't know, it's too nice to use." If the sword is never going to be used, you might as well buy a $30 wall hanger and save a couple THOUSAND dollars
maybe its just me but I couldn't spend $1,000 - $3,000 on something that I didn't plan to use...
THATS IT.....I have a get rich quick scheme, I'm going to sell paper weights for $2,000 a piece, and I already have found the people to market it to. Ok, Rant over
(SBG Forumites excluded of course, as they don't share the elitist views of those I am talking about)
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Post by rammstein on Mar 9, 2007 20:26:11 GMT
Justin, you have been added to my list of people not allowed to even get near my albion ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 20:33:04 GMT
I understand I just want to borrow it for awhile I'll give it back ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2007 0:34:28 GMT
Clyde, I'm hoping you can confirm what Mr. Grandy stated in his review, that Gen2 sword hilts are epoxied as well as peened? This certainly sounds right, considering the abuse some of our members have subjected their G2s to, without any hilt loosening, though I can't tell just by looking at my examples. If this is indeed the case, then it is not an insignificant reason for their durability. WIthout going into too much detail, one of the problems of a compression type hilt assembly, in which the components are slid down onto the tang and then the end of the tang is peened down to hold the whole thing together, is that it puts a lot of undue stress on the tang and grip of the sword. Also, such assemblies tend to move around during use and eventually loosen. This is common in Windlass and Del Tin swords, for example. By the simple addition of a healthy dose of epoxy into the assembly, most of these stresses are relieved by being more evenly distributed throughout the hilt. Also, this removes the components' abilities to shift and keeps the hilt tight. In fact, this is not an uncommonly suggested upgrade for people who rehilt their Windlass (and other similarly constructed) swords.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2007 1:41:02 GMT
Clyde, I'm hoping you can confirm what Mr. Grandy stated in his review, that Gen2 sword hilts are epoxied as well as peened? This certainly sounds right, considering the abuse some of our members have subjected their G2s to, without any hilt loosening, though I can't tell just by looking at my examples. If this is indeed the case, then it is not an insignificant reason for their durability. WIthout going into too much detail, one of the problems of a compression type hilt assembly, in which the components are slid down onto the tang and then the end of the tang is peened down to hold the whole thing together, is that it puts a lot of undue stress on the tang and grip of the sword. Also, such assemblies tend to move around during use and eventually loosen. This is common in Windlass and Del Tin swords, for example. By the simple addition of a healthy dose of epoxy into the assembly, most of these stresses are relieved by being more evenly distributed throughout the hilt. Also, this removes the components' abilities to shift and keeps the hilt tight. In fact, this is not an uncommonly suggested upgrade for people who rehilt their Windlass (and other similarly constructed) swords. Bingo!!!! Now on just threaded tangs this is not the case. They are held tighter, but when you go to a peened on pommel there is more movement, and only that but change in weather with the steel expanding and contracting you will get movement as well. Thank you for bringing that up Kriegschwert. Well done!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2007 4:14:25 GMT
Excellent. Thanks, Clyde.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2007 8:00:52 GMT
heres a youtube review of the L6 Thanking you kind sir, oh yes yes yes, I am really interested in these babies. Just for the testing value ! I wonder if they sell just the blades by themselves ?? I suppose it is healthy to have something to work towards !? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2007 15:38:06 GMT
I have been looking for the book by Ian Pearce "Swords of the Viking Age" I have ordered it with Books a Million and they can no longer get it. I have ordered with Amazon and they will not ship it until the middle of April (so that tells me they do not have it as well). I need it for my collection as well as other things, yes maybe more Viking swords, etc. I have checked Ebay as well, well only once.
And Hank would kick my rear if borrowed his (and I would kick myself as well) if anything happened to it.
Any suggestions?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2007 4:07:18 GMT
This thread hasn't been touched for nearly half a month but I figured I would give my 2 cents since I'm a member a myarmoury.com. Sadly as some people have said here, there are people who have a very elitist attitude towards Gen 2 swords and only look at the swords in terms of historical accuracy along with fit and finish. However, Nathan(the Admin.) seems to be good man who is quick to clamp down on people if they get a little too high and mighty or don't back their harsh words with good reasons/facts and examples. Personally I do feel that higher end swords such as Albions are better in terms of fit and finish, historical acuuracy, and handling in most cases, but people must remember (and I'm saying this to everyone) that they should judge a sword on how well it performs according to how it's meant to be used. Beater swords should be compared to other beaters and not just expensive swords unless or course you're trying to decide between the two on which to buy in terms of best fit and finish, handling, etc. -Tim
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2007 14:35:30 GMT
This thread hasn't been touched for nearly half a month but I figured I would give my 2 cents since I'm a member a myarmoury.com. Sadly as some people have said here, there are people who have a very elitist attitude towards Gen 2 swords and only look at the swords in terms of historical accuracy along with fit and finish. However, Nathan(the Admin.) seems to be good man who is quick to clamp down on people if they get a little too high and mighty or don't back their harsh words with good reasons/facts and examples. Personally I do feel that higher end swords such as Albions are better in terms of fit and finish, historical acuuracy, and handling in most cases, but people must remember (and I'm saying this to everyone) that they should judge a sword on how well it performs according to how it's meant to be used. Beater swords should be compared to other beaters and not just expensive swords unless or course you're trying to decide between the two on which to buy in terms of best fit and finish, handling, etc. -Tim You are correct. Nathan does an excellent job, and so do a few others. Of course I know several here who are also members at MyArmoury and that helps. I do believe there are more people who are members (and die hard members) who are starting to see the value of more affordable well made swords. Of course this forum has really been more of a driving force and a big eye opener.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2007 0:36:37 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Apr 4, 2007 0:50:59 GMT
Tim, Thank you for posting this. I have been aching for this book too. I just ordered it. Clyde, if I got the last one I will send it to you. Thanks, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2007 17:29:37 GMT
Tim, Thank you for posting this. I have been aching for this book too. I just ordered it. Clyde, if I got the last one I will send it to you. Thanks, Mike No, NO that's OK. I did find one. I have had it for 2 weeks now. It is the Hard back version. I actually got it directly from the publisher. Thanks, for looking out for me. Both of you!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2007 2:21:37 GMT
Excellent. Thanks, Clyde. Hey Mike, Did you get the book in? Did you find the sword picture? The pictures are wonderful in that book. I see so many Viking swords I want to have done, but the inlaying...I just don't know if we can do it and it still be affordable. I had to put my book up for a while. Too much drooling on the pages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2007 16:58:23 GMT
That would mean one of two things: The sword was used for battle...or...The prince had a hissy fit and slaughtered 7 water boys in a fit of syphillis induced frenetic beserk fury Personally, I'm going with the second option Rofl, that is fantastic!
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