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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2010 0:01:55 GMT
That might be the difference. I regularly live in close proximity to people for whom a blade is both a tool and a means of surviving interpersonal conflict. But I've also seen gunplay happen. Lots of media driven misconceptions get dispelled fairly suddenly when you see a guy hit in the chest with a .45acp and he never seems to notice. At least not right away. My bro in law took a .38 spl to the chest and walked to the car, walked into the ER and walked out the next day. He was back to work 3 days later. Wasn't very spry, but at work. Had that been a 30-06 I think he'd have dropped on the spot and died but handguns, in my mind, are less deadly in amateur hands than a machete is in familiar fingers.
But again. I swim in a different pool. A lot of people in Philippines are not much concerned with watching someone they truly think were going to do they or their mortal harm bleed out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2010 5:29:26 GMT
It really depends on the person. Some people laugh and scoff at swords, saying they're just pieces of history now, because they've been replaced by guns. Others, like my parents, see a sword as a real weapon. My parents never liked me having them in the first place, because they seem to think I'm going to just snap and kill someone. Or that I'll have an accident while I'm "playing" with them and hurt or kill myself. I'm 21 now, and my parents still think the same, though I suppose I can't blame them. They are my parents, after all.
As for being afraid more of getting shot or attacked with a sword, I'd have to say I'd be more afraid of getting attacked with a sword. Even if it's a stainless steel piece of crap, it can still kill you, especially if it's sharpened. I know just how lethal guns are, and just how easy someone can die from a single shot, but it seems more likely that you'd die from being cut or stabbed by a sword than shot by a bullet. Swords, plainly put, cause more damage. The wounds are bigger, and you typically lose blood faster. However, with a bullet, yes, it is a searing hot piece of metal that just pierced your body before you could blink, but the wound is smaller and may not be as severe as a wound from a sword. Plus, people have survived after taking several bullets. I'm sure everyone's heard the story about the kid who got shot in the head with a shotgun and lived, albeit with half his skull missing. The thing is, humans are a lot more durable than most people would have you believe. But how many people can (honestly) claim they've survived more than one cut from a sword in a sword fight? I'd be willing to bet a whole lot less than people who've survived multiple gunshot wounds.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2010 5:36:04 GMT
Oh, and there's one more thing I've been meaning to ask. What the hell is "SLO"?
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 7, 2010 5:40:44 GMT
I know exactly how you feel in regards to the parents, Ensse; my mother's the same way and I'm 20. It seems rather ironic, though, considering my grandparents used to have a full sword rack on the wall and a gun case filled with rifles and handguns (the swords are now in the case), so it's kinda funny that she feels that way. My mom knows I'm not the type to snap and go after someone, but I guess she's of the mind that they're dangerous weapons and, in her eyes, I'm still just a little baby.
That is very true, concerning the sword fight. After all, unless you are extremely lucky, it's likely that you'll probably leave something behind, like a finger or a toe. Hell, if you're unarmored, you could leave behind an arm or a leg or even your head. If you're lucky in a sword fight, the best you could really hope to get away with is a few cuts and scrapes.
By the way, SLO means a "Sword Like Object". In other words, wall hangers; it's a rather derogatory term against cheap, Chinese or Taiwanese pieces of 440 crap that people take for real swords these days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 2:46:10 GMT
Ah, well, I suppose it can't be helped. They worry because they are our parents, and to them, we will always be their little children. I understand why they worry about me. I just wish they wouldn't.
And yes, in most cases, I suppose that would hold true. However, it seems to me that someone with enough skill with a sword could end the fight quickly and leave with not so much as a scrape or bruise. I certainly wouldn't say it's impossible, and I wouldn't say that luck is the only major factor in a fight.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. Now I feel pretty "slo". XD
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 8, 2010 2:51:38 GMT
Yeah. You know why they do it, you just wish they wouldn't since you're a grown up now.
Well, I didn't mean to imply that luck was the only part, but it is a good part, since even an unskilled swordsman could get a cut in, particularly if they just swing wildly. However, a master of the sword would probably be able to end it easily. In fact, many historical 'duels' with swords, such as the ones Miyamoto Musashi was reputed to have fought and won 60 of, would often end after only a few blows, in which one would strike, be countered, and often counter or die.
:lol: Don't feel too bad; I think the only reason I really knew it is 'cause I lurked on SBG for about a year before I joined and SLO is, I believe, posted somewhere on the homepage.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2010 0:20:58 GMT
Yeah, I know what you mean. I've sparred with a friend or two who just flailed wildly, and it wasn't easy to block, seeing as it was kinda unpredictable. Of course, I'm no master either. Ah...Miyamoto Musashi...I never did get to read his book. I believe the Japanese name for it is Go Rin No Sho. He truly was a master of the sword, though. A real legend. I hear he even won duels using a bokken. Now THAT would have been amazing to see in person.
Haha, don't worry, I don't feel bad. I was only joking. However, I do have a feeling that I have seen that term, SLO, somewhere before. It does seem familiar. I may have seen it on the old forum somewhere before, but forgot what it meant since then.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 10, 2010 0:36:12 GMT
I don't think I've ever swung wildly, though I didn't have exact control and all my friend did was back away. With regards to Musashi, it is the Go Rin no Sho (Book of Five Rings in English), and as for the duels with bokken, it's true, especially in his most famous duel, against Kojiro Sasaki. Kojiro used his famous 'drying pole sword' (a 36" katana with little sori), whereas Musashi fought and killed Sasaki with a bokuto/ieku he had carved from an oar while on the way to the island the duel was being fought. The man was also a master of strategy as he arrived an hour or so late to his duel with Kojiro, which pissed the man off, and timed his arrival so that when he won the duel, he could jump in his boat and quickly retreat as the tides fell.
Ah, well, sarcasm is the one thing that rarely shows up on the internet. But speaking to the topic, I think the Belt sword is mostly gimmicky and something of an SLO itself. It may be able to cut and kill, sure, but so can an SLO, and here you have a sword that's meant to be fasten in your belt, so it's flexible, has no real handle to speak of, and probably doesn't have an edge.
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Post by Odingaard on Oct 10, 2010 1:55:34 GMT
This thread has veered further and further away from the original topic over the last few pages. I'll give it a chance to get back on the subject with discussion of the belt sword and similar concealable edged weapons - but if it continues to meander away from the original subject of discussion, I'll have no choice but to lock it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2010 23:49:06 GMT
Sorry, Odin. I think Vincent and I are mostly to blame here. I'll take our conversation to PMs. ^_^
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Post by Odingaard on Oct 20, 2010 18:15:18 GMT
This would be awesome if possible.
As for my reviewing it, we seem to have went dead in the water yet again for some reason or another; making me grow slightly weary of waiting on my end. Getting a review up faster would be nice indeed, so we can test the practicality oand application of this blade and concealment system.
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Post by ineffableone on Oct 20, 2010 19:05:34 GMT
Please do a review of it. inquiring minds want to know.
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Post by Odingaard on Apr 17, 2011 19:32:47 GMT
It's been sometime, yes. However, Curtis made good on our arrangement from last year, and shipped 4 different belt sword models to my APO address here in the Middle East. They arrived today. I assembled the system and began getting a feel for it. My initial impressions are quite good actually. I will work on the full review of the system as time permits between my duties here, but I can tell you now that these are not a gimmick and not toys. They are more functional that many would think, and the initial cutting here has been quite fun, myself and my team members have been having a blast.
I will link my review back here once I have completed it. I will try to get it up within the next month or so.
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Post by Tendrax on Apr 17, 2011 21:24:37 GMT
Nice, I'm excited for it! Only just saw this thread today but it's very intriguing.
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Post by Sébastien on Apr 17, 2011 23:55:51 GMT
Thats awesome news Odin', thanks for updating us ! I can't wait to see those blades in action.
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Post by Wes on Apr 18, 2011 0:01:32 GMT
Awesome! I just thought about this thing the other day actually. Can't wait to see your review
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 18, 2011 2:18:56 GMT
Wow, I forgot about this. Looking forward to the reviews.
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Post by Odingaard on May 19, 2011 15:01:24 GMT
I was off today, so I was able to do some cutting with the various models Curt sent me. I am working on a product review now, but I was able to do a little video which shows that yes indeed, this sword does do what it is supposed to do: I will post more information once I finish the review of these. It's kinda hard before I am overseas, but I will manage something soon!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 15:44:31 GMT
Fascinating, you nearly got some silent cuts there.
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Post by wganz on Jun 5, 2011 23:59:28 GMT
New CCW law changes in Texas will allow you to wear this if you have a CHL && are also carrying a handgun. We're moving in the right direction && hopefully the pistola requirement will be removed.
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