Valiant Armoury Kreigschwert
Oct 1, 2010 13:42:27 GMT
Post by ChrisA on Oct 1, 2010 13:42:27 GMT
Here it goes. My first review. This is going to be picture heavy.
Please don't judge me too harshly. Of course if I mess something up, let me know. I can take it.
Introduction
Valiant Armour asked Christian Fletcher and Angus Trim to design several swords for their Signature Series. The Kriegschwert is one of those designs.
The blades are forged in China and the leatherwork is done by Valiant.
Historical Overview
The Kriegschwert is an Oakeshott type XIIa. Type XII's were an upgrade to earlier designs by improving thrusting without sacrificing the cut. Still mostly a cutter, typeXII's were capable of thrusts against lightly armored opponents. Type XIIa is the two handed version of type XII.
Kriegschwert means "Warsword" in German.
Initial Impressions
My Kriegschwert was shipped with my Practical Arming Sword, each in their own boxes but taped together. The swords were in two boxes for added protection. They were padded nicely though the styrofoam packing took a beating. The sword itself was intact.
The signature series comes with scabbard, belt and suspension system. Valiant Armoury was unhappy with the buckles of the belt and ordered new one to be cast. This held up the belt and suspension but they decided to ship the swords so we can at least enjoy the blades while we wait. Valiant will ship the belt and suspension system at their cost as soon as they come in. I could not ask for better quality control than that. It is obvious that Sonny takes pride in these products and does everything he can to ensure quality.
Statistics
Overall Length: 44 3/8"
Blade Length: 35"
Handle Length: 7"
Blade Material: Hand Forged 1060 High Carbon Spring Steel
Blade Width at Guard: 1 13/16".
Sword Weight 3 lbs. 4 oz.
Sword, Scabbard & Belt Weight 4 lbs. 3 oz.
Center of Gravity 6"
Center of Percussion 23"
These are taken from VA's site and those which I can measure are the same so I think it safe to say the rest is pretty accurate.
Components
The scabbard and sword are beautifully done. Finish is nice but not perfect. This is something I like. It makes it look less like a mass produced item and more a hand made work of art.
The blade as per typeXII has distinct profile taper. Though I lack the tools to measure it, it also has distal taper.
The fuller is evenly done and ends about 2/3of the way down. Though flexible, I detect no undue whippyness in the blade.
The point is sharp and penetrates testing medium easily (plastic bottles). The edge is sharp and cuts the testing medium as if it wasn't there.
There is a noticable scratch and scuff mark on the blade right under the hilt. This is very light and should come out with a little Metal Glo, but is worth mentioning.
The back of the scabbard is glued together neatly. The seam is obvious but it is smooth and neatly done.
The sword fits snugly in the scabbard.
The chape is nicely done though tooling can be seen. Also note the imperfections in the leather. Not a bad thing at all.
The hilt and pommel are nicely done. The leather is tight and feels comfortable in the hand. The handle is the ideal length to fit both of my average sized hands, 7". Some tooling can be seen on the pommel but, again, I like the look of that.
Now the two things I can find fault with. Not real gripes but what good is a review without finding something just not perfect? The wrap on the hilt is uneven and overlaps a bit. Nothing horrible but something that can be improved upon. With normal handling I can feel it if I think about it, but normally it is not an issue at all. The other complaint is that the hilt is a bit on the thin side for my average hands. I have no problem at all, but someone with larger hands might have an issue.
The blade fits snugly in the handle with very little gap. The fuller extends to beneath the hilt.
Just like "real" Atrims these are attached by a hex nut screw. This allows for customization if desired. I find the screw comes loose after a few dozen cuts and a few whacks on the cutting stand (oops!). A quick turn of the screw and all is right. There are products out there to put on the threading to make it hold tighter if this is an issue. It's not with me.
The Kriegschwert has a full, thick tang that is attached with screws. The threaded part does not seem to be welded on.
Handling Characteristics
I am untrained in swords. What little I do know is from this forum and some videos. I have three other swords to compare this one to: Practical Arming Sword, Dark Sentinel, and a Windlass Raptor. I have never handled a "real" Atrim or an Albion. Someone with more experience than I might have a different opinion.
The weight of this sword is 3lbs 4oz as per the VA site and while I have no digital scale I can say that feels pretty much on target. POB is 6". This makes for a rather point heavy sword that gives a strong cut.
This is a "warsword". A sword meant to be taken on the field of battle, meant to face various armor of maille and cloth. This is not a sword meant for swift unarmored duels.
Despite the weight and the 6" POB this is still an agile sword. It moves better than it's statistics would indicate. It has a authoritative cut, but is not difficult to reverse the stroke. Tracking in the thrust is ok, but obviously not this sword's strong point.
To me, this sword is best used two handed. One handed I find a little difficult but that might be more to my lack of training and skill.
Test Cutting
My friend and I spent an afternoon cutting various types of plastic bottles ranging from 1 gallon milk jugs to Coffee Mate bottles to kitty litter tubs. None gave this sword a problem. Although our form might be in question, the edge of this sword is not.
Unfortunately, and unintentionally, we had struck the various cutting stands. This includes a rather thin and soft pine 1/2 inch thick. We took several slices out of this. I expected no damage to the blade and was not disappointed. Not a mark on it.
However we also connected rather firmly with thicker, harder, pressure treated 4x4s. I was fearful, but to my surprise the edge was intact. Nothing more than a smear that easily wiped off. No rolling. No chipping. No set to the blade. The 4th picture I posted here, the one of the lower half of the blade, was taken the day after we struck the 4x4s 3 times, leaving gouges in the wood. As you can see, the blade is intact.
So i have to say the hardening and heat treating are wonderfully done. This is not just a beautiful sword, this is a tough blade meant for cutting.
Despite my better judgement here is a very short video of me using the Kriegschwert. I once read on these forums that many of you get more from watching even an inexperienced user like myself than from reading the review. So I feel a video is needed. Please don't be too mean about my form. I know I am not good.
Conclusions
I hate to make this review sound like one big glowing review without complaints. I have voiced things I didn't like, and they are minor, but I must state that this sword is, in my opinion, an excellent value for the money. I really can't wait for the future offerings from Valiant Armoury.
Pros and Cons
Pros
ugh! So much to list here! I hope I don't leave anything out!
Strong, sharp, durable blade.
Nice handling. Handles like a strong warsword should.
Beautiful scabbard.
Nice leather wrap on hilt.
Great customer service.
Excellent quality control.
Cons
Have to wait for belt and suspension system (but see last item under pros)
Uneven edge on leather wrapping of hilt.
Hilt could be a little thicker.
Small scratch and scuff on blade out of the box.
Bottom Line
I am totally satisfied. I would absolutely recommend this sword. It is as good as it looks in the pictures.
Thanks for reading and I hope someone found this review enlightening.
Please don't judge me too harshly. Of course if I mess something up, let me know. I can take it.
Introduction
Valiant Armour asked Christian Fletcher and Angus Trim to design several swords for their Signature Series. The Kriegschwert is one of those designs.
The blades are forged in China and the leatherwork is done by Valiant.
Historical Overview
The Kriegschwert is an Oakeshott type XIIa. Type XII's were an upgrade to earlier designs by improving thrusting without sacrificing the cut. Still mostly a cutter, typeXII's were capable of thrusts against lightly armored opponents. Type XIIa is the two handed version of type XII.
Kriegschwert means "Warsword" in German.
Initial Impressions
My Kriegschwert was shipped with my Practical Arming Sword, each in their own boxes but taped together. The swords were in two boxes for added protection. They were padded nicely though the styrofoam packing took a beating. The sword itself was intact.
The signature series comes with scabbard, belt and suspension system. Valiant Armoury was unhappy with the buckles of the belt and ordered new one to be cast. This held up the belt and suspension but they decided to ship the swords so we can at least enjoy the blades while we wait. Valiant will ship the belt and suspension system at their cost as soon as they come in. I could not ask for better quality control than that. It is obvious that Sonny takes pride in these products and does everything he can to ensure quality.
Statistics
Overall Length: 44 3/8"
Blade Length: 35"
Handle Length: 7"
Blade Material: Hand Forged 1060 High Carbon Spring Steel
Blade Width at Guard: 1 13/16".
Sword Weight 3 lbs. 4 oz.
Sword, Scabbard & Belt Weight 4 lbs. 3 oz.
Center of Gravity 6"
Center of Percussion 23"
These are taken from VA's site and those which I can measure are the same so I think it safe to say the rest is pretty accurate.
Components
The scabbard and sword are beautifully done. Finish is nice but not perfect. This is something I like. It makes it look less like a mass produced item and more a hand made work of art.
The blade as per typeXII has distinct profile taper. Though I lack the tools to measure it, it also has distal taper.
The fuller is evenly done and ends about 2/3of the way down. Though flexible, I detect no undue whippyness in the blade.
The point is sharp and penetrates testing medium easily (plastic bottles). The edge is sharp and cuts the testing medium as if it wasn't there.
There is a noticable scratch and scuff mark on the blade right under the hilt. This is very light and should come out with a little Metal Glo, but is worth mentioning.
The back of the scabbard is glued together neatly. The seam is obvious but it is smooth and neatly done.
The sword fits snugly in the scabbard.
The chape is nicely done though tooling can be seen. Also note the imperfections in the leather. Not a bad thing at all.
The hilt and pommel are nicely done. The leather is tight and feels comfortable in the hand. The handle is the ideal length to fit both of my average sized hands, 7". Some tooling can be seen on the pommel but, again, I like the look of that.
Now the two things I can find fault with. Not real gripes but what good is a review without finding something just not perfect? The wrap on the hilt is uneven and overlaps a bit. Nothing horrible but something that can be improved upon. With normal handling I can feel it if I think about it, but normally it is not an issue at all. The other complaint is that the hilt is a bit on the thin side for my average hands. I have no problem at all, but someone with larger hands might have an issue.
The blade fits snugly in the handle with very little gap. The fuller extends to beneath the hilt.
Just like "real" Atrims these are attached by a hex nut screw. This allows for customization if desired. I find the screw comes loose after a few dozen cuts and a few whacks on the cutting stand (oops!). A quick turn of the screw and all is right. There are products out there to put on the threading to make it hold tighter if this is an issue. It's not with me.
The Kriegschwert has a full, thick tang that is attached with screws. The threaded part does not seem to be welded on.
Handling Characteristics
I am untrained in swords. What little I do know is from this forum and some videos. I have three other swords to compare this one to: Practical Arming Sword, Dark Sentinel, and a Windlass Raptor. I have never handled a "real" Atrim or an Albion. Someone with more experience than I might have a different opinion.
The weight of this sword is 3lbs 4oz as per the VA site and while I have no digital scale I can say that feels pretty much on target. POB is 6". This makes for a rather point heavy sword that gives a strong cut.
This is a "warsword". A sword meant to be taken on the field of battle, meant to face various armor of maille and cloth. This is not a sword meant for swift unarmored duels.
Despite the weight and the 6" POB this is still an agile sword. It moves better than it's statistics would indicate. It has a authoritative cut, but is not difficult to reverse the stroke. Tracking in the thrust is ok, but obviously not this sword's strong point.
To me, this sword is best used two handed. One handed I find a little difficult but that might be more to my lack of training and skill.
Test Cutting
My friend and I spent an afternoon cutting various types of plastic bottles ranging from 1 gallon milk jugs to Coffee Mate bottles to kitty litter tubs. None gave this sword a problem. Although our form might be in question, the edge of this sword is not.
Unfortunately, and unintentionally, we had struck the various cutting stands. This includes a rather thin and soft pine 1/2 inch thick. We took several slices out of this. I expected no damage to the blade and was not disappointed. Not a mark on it.
However we also connected rather firmly with thicker, harder, pressure treated 4x4s. I was fearful, but to my surprise the edge was intact. Nothing more than a smear that easily wiped off. No rolling. No chipping. No set to the blade. The 4th picture I posted here, the one of the lower half of the blade, was taken the day after we struck the 4x4s 3 times, leaving gouges in the wood. As you can see, the blade is intact.
So i have to say the hardening and heat treating are wonderfully done. This is not just a beautiful sword, this is a tough blade meant for cutting.
Despite my better judgement here is a very short video of me using the Kriegschwert. I once read on these forums that many of you get more from watching even an inexperienced user like myself than from reading the review. So I feel a video is needed. Please don't be too mean about my form. I know I am not good.
Conclusions
I hate to make this review sound like one big glowing review without complaints. I have voiced things I didn't like, and they are minor, but I must state that this sword is, in my opinion, an excellent value for the money. I really can't wait for the future offerings from Valiant Armoury.
Pros and Cons
Pros
ugh! So much to list here! I hope I don't leave anything out!
Strong, sharp, durable blade.
Nice handling. Handles like a strong warsword should.
Beautiful scabbard.
Nice leather wrap on hilt.
Great customer service.
Excellent quality control.
Cons
Have to wait for belt and suspension system (but see last item under pros)
Uneven edge on leather wrapping of hilt.
Hilt could be a little thicker.
Small scratch and scuff on blade out of the box.
Bottom Line
I am totally satisfied. I would absolutely recommend this sword. It is as good as it looks in the pictures.
Thanks for reading and I hope someone found this review enlightening.