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Post by zacaroni on Mar 11, 2008 1:32:27 GMT
Hi guys and gals! I have a warning for anyone redoing their saya. I stripped my kaze saya with jasco stripper, and relaquered it with a nice metallic brown auto lacquer. The stripper opened the seems a little towards the tip end of the saya. I went ahead and painted it anyway, and clear lacquered it and let it sit for a few weeks. I oiled the blade and set it on the stand. Two weeks later I have a rusted kaze! ! Needless to say without filling the cracks I F***ED up my damn favorite sword. I don't even want to to share any pics, even though it's not too bad, rust is still rust! Metal glo and wd-40 are are I have to stop this mess. I am embarassed and ashamed, but I have lerned a hard lesson. Hopefully this will prevent someone else from making a similar mistake. I stripped it because I had enamel on it first, otherwise sanding it would have been fine alone. Hope this helps someone!
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Post by rammstein on Mar 11, 2008 1:48:23 GMT
Have a karma. I know exactly what this feels like, my entire sword collection (including an albion among them) just horribly rusted in a freak accident. Don't be embarressed, just learn from your mistake
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Post by zacaroni on Mar 11, 2008 1:59:46 GMT
Wow that sucks! That really really sucks, Ramm! Man, I feel worse now, knowing such a loss. Thanks for the karma, right back at ya.
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Post by jw on Mar 11, 2008 21:09:43 GMT
I doubt a little opening in the saya did this, there is a hole in one end that is not air tight...
You may have also applied a non-breathable coating to the saya and that may help keep moisture in the wood...
Was the Jasco stripper water based? If it 'cleans up with water' you just put your sword in a waterlogged saya...
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Post by zacaroni on Mar 11, 2008 23:35:14 GMT
I washed it real good after stripping and waited a couple days before lacquer. But either way the damage is done, and the lesson learned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 16:58:32 GMT
Could this be the problem?
Or is lacquer all the same?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2008 2:33:42 GMT
My guess would be water got into the saya, or it was lacquered too soon before completely dry. Future projects might benefit from soaking in some good quality IPA (not rubbing alchohol) before painting to help remove any extra water from the wood. I doubt if the paint or the stripper (unless acid-based) would cause the sword to rust, but we all know what nasty things plain old water will do!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2008 3:17:01 GMT
Maybe you could give robo's tutorial a try. It's kinda good. I'm planning to paint my shirasaya black and white, marble style. I'm going for oil based paint not water based. /index.cgi?board=swordcustom&action=display&thread=1200447374
One more thing. Is there any pics of the cracked saya and rusted blade?
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Post by jw on Mar 17, 2008 18:40:54 GMT
Maybe you could give robo's tutorial a try. It's kinda good. I'm planning to paint my shirasaya black and white, marble style. I'm going for oil based paint not water based. /index.cgi?board=swordcustom&action=display&thread=1200447374 One more thing. Is there any pics of the cracked saya and rusted blade? Beware the stripper you use to remove any finish from your saya... The paint he used was fine, the stripper was water based and left water in the wood of the saya and the finish only allowed it to exit the wood via the inside of the saya and thus rusting the blade.
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Post by zacaroni on Mar 19, 2008 13:23:06 GMT
Yea I have a couple pictures, but I was trying to finish all my swords and post them all at once, now I'm going redo a new saya from a cheness factory second. And plus I gave up trying to post pics before due to the fact that I'm technologically handicapped. And yea it must've been a little water in the saya to make it rust. I got the rust off, but the steel is a little pitted, the biggest spot is as big as dime.
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