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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 5:08:40 GMT
Hey gang.
I received my Munetoshi Beater series katana today and I've been doing maybe an hours worth of dry handling. Well, towards the end I had noticed that my kashira has some play in it.
Is this common for katanas, or is this something that I need to look into fixing?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 5:22:24 GMT
Thats why you need to learn how to wrap, Even the best will losen over time with use....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 5:31:39 GMT
Ok, so this buttcap isn't supposed to be held on by anything other then the ito? Oh, and what are you talking about foo!? I already know how to rap, check it! Ugh... yeah... what what? I was cuttin with my homies fellas couldn't show me The way that I want to cut, pfft oh please I get 8 slices on them waterbottles my friend gets one then he walks away and waddles Great sword of war I've swung before all them other posers had walked out the door But I got my VA Three Oh Three And you best not step or I'll sting you like a BEE! Ugh... yeah... what up? ^ See! But thanks for the reply Sanmarc, I suppose I'll look up how to do an Ito wrap and then just cinch it down tight. Or maybe just undo the last few wraps, and finish it up tight.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 5:39:20 GMT
I hope you have enough Ito to redo the end, and what the heck are you drinking??? ;D ....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 5:40:36 GMT
Oh, and what are you talking about foo!? I already know how to rap, check it! Ugh... yeah... what what? I was cuttin with my homies fellas couldn't show me The way that I want to cut, pfft oh please I get 8 slices on them waterbottles my friend gets one then he walks away and waddles Great sword of war I've swung before all them other posers had walked out the door But I got my VA Three Oh Three And you best not step or I'll sting you like a BEE! Ugh... yeah... what up? ^ See! OMG that was great, totally made my night reading your Gangsta Greg sword rap. ;D
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Post by Dan Davis on Sept 8, 2010 10:35:01 GMT
Do me a favor - skip this chapter in the "How to be Awesome" sequel; okay?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 12:31:31 GMT
I used to have a Wiggly Kashira once...but went to the doctor and he cleared it right up. Wait...you said Wigggggly Kashira, silly me, that was the name I used to dance under back when I needed money for beauty college.
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Post by chrisperoni on Sept 8, 2010 13:37:04 GMT
First off- that only proves you CAN'T rap ;D (but we all know you can WRAP- are you going to try tsukamaki now?)
Second- you can just jam some epoxy into the kashira and bond it to the tsuka- but it will make dismantling it harder ('course you knew that)
-are you going to 'jam' for us now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2010 18:59:42 GMT
You could also pin it with using a drill and some small gauge brass round stock from the hobby shop... I did this to one of mine...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 4:55:44 GMT
Ah! That's a wonderful idea! It's still removable without to much damage do the core... well, aside from the holes. But it's not epoxy permanent, is what I'm getting at. But, I have already modified the grip. I epoxied the butt cap and wrapped the grip in leather. Unfortunately, now that I've used it some more, I've found another wiggle. This one is in the Tsuba. It only wiggles around the blade, but not up and down the blade (If you hold the katana with the tip up) I think this wiggle is from the pegs not being big enough, or just settling in. It's not a game breaker, and I only notice the sound when I twist the blade back and forth, but not while cutting. But if I do decide to regrip the katana again, I will probably use the brass rod method. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 5:27:51 GMT
Ok, you might have to peen the tsuba to fit the blade better, look at Nihonto Tsuba's and you will see what I mean...SanMarc.
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 16, 2010 12:44:42 GMT
I have had this also on numerous katana from beaters to higher end. Since I really suck bad at doing any mods to anything dealing with the tsuka or components, I have just glued them down. Logic for me is I will not cut with the expensive ones which will keep everything looking good and the others would not justify additional money invested in them. Everything forward of the tuska, I can do fairly well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 7:51:23 GMT
As a temporary fix, I've taken a scrap piece of thin leather, and cut out the shape of the brass thingy that sandwiches the tsuba, then just put that between the brass and the handle. I can still move it, but not that easily. What I plan on doing long term is making a device that will basically work like pliers to move the two sides of the tsuba inward. It has a shape that I won't need to move a lot of metal to do this, so it shouldn't be a huge undertaking. But I'm assuming that is what you mean by peening the tsuba. Actually, did you mean a back peen, where I take a punch tool and work the metal closer to the tang? Hrm... if my method doesn't work, I might try that. I don't have much to lose and I have a spare tsuba that I bought for a friend but never gave to him. It was 5 bucks from Wiwingti, and I had already ordered one, so I figured I'd just order another.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 8:02:21 GMT
Yes peening is what you call back peening, not the first description, that is something else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 6:18:28 GMT
If it starts to bother me while cutting, I'll do the backpeening work on it... or if there is a rainy day. But first I'll have to make sure that the metal can be peened. The description is a carbon steel alloy, so I don't know if that is brittle or if it would mold easily.
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Post by lobsterhunter on Sept 20, 2010 10:12:53 GMT
Peening is probably the best way to improve the tsuba/nakago fit but an easier method has been illustrated by Marc Ridgeway in a stickied post using a thin copper shimmy bit. I just posted something about it in this very section here: /index.cgi?action=display&board=repair&thread=18424&page=1A shifty tsuba is really annoying so I was very happy to learn about cunning ways to fix it.
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