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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 1:35:50 GMT
Okay guys, let me get this right...all of Hanwei's Chinese swords are recommended to not cut anything right? The exception is Rodell's Jian, the dadaos, and the Banshee. Then why do they sell swords like the sharpened tai chi sword and the practical daos without warning about them?!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 3:18:43 GMT
Every Hanwei sword I have ever gotten has said it was not meant for cutting practice. Every one had a tag that said this:
"WARNING! Hanwei swords are packaged extremely sharp and are meant FOR DISPLAY ONLY!!"
None of them were Chinese swords, however.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 5:21:46 GMT
wait...WHAT?! Which swords did you get?! Was it the katanas?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 6:03:30 GMT
wait...WHAT?! Which swords did you get?! Was it the katanas?! One was a Practical Plus Elite katana, the other was a Practical tanto and the last one was a Scottish Claymore. They just put the tags on there so if a sword does break during the cutting of something and a part of the blade hits someone and really hurts them, the people can't sue them. Think of it this way, coffee shops are required to put "WARNING Coffee is extremely hot!" on their coffee cups, but people drink them when they are scolding hot anyways. |
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 15, 2010 1:40:16 GMT
Exactly. Tis a liability waiver. Covers them in the event that somebody goes insane with their swords.
I've never owned a Hanwei-made Chinese sword, but I have heard that a lot tend to be thin and somewhat frail. They're apparently only "intended" for forms practice and not so much cutting, except the ones specifically labeled as "cutting ________" like the Rodells.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 9:26:20 GMT
If you talk to one of the customer service reps they will tell you some like the Practical Broadsword and the Yang saber can be used for "light" cutting. (I have yet to find out what they define as light cutting - it has been postulated that this means tatami half mats but we're not certain). The only sword recommended to be used in test cutting is the Rodell model.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 2:55:17 GMT
Kinda ironic that a Chinese company can't make real Chinese swords but can make top-notch reproduction swords of almost every other culture  ! Ah well sign of the times...hope that Rodell dao comes out soon!!! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 3:32:00 GMT
The Yang is incredibly light and agile and for LIGHT cutting( bottles and pool noodles) it does very well. Ditto for the Hanwei Corn Leaf Saber.
Any target more substantial than the above and you will be sorely disappointed. The edges on them look like they will roll in a stiff breeze.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 8:26:48 GMT
The Yang is incredibly light and agile and for LIGHT cutting( bottles and pool noodles) it does very well. Ditto for the Hanwei Corn Leaf Saber. Any target more substantial than the above and you will be sorely disappointed. The edges on them look like they will roll in a stiff breeze. Why do you own one? Does the yang saber even have a full tang?! I ask this because I saw a horrible picture of the Hanwei damascus tai chi jian disassembled in an earlier post! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 11:35:57 GMT
Yes, I own both the Yang and the Corn Leaf.
I have never disassembled the Yang, so do not know how the tang is constructed.
It is sturdy enough for light cutting like I described above, and I have not had any problems with mine whatsoever. I have not pushed the blade any to find the limits of its abilities . It is a very light quick blade and due to its edge profile I don't think it will stand up to a flubbed cut in a substantial target very well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 16:16:33 GMT
Kinda ironic that a Chinese company can't make real Chinese swords but can make top-notch reproduction swords of almost every other culture ! Well, the Cultural Revolution and the establishment of wushu didn't really help the situation  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 8:16:46 GMT
Yes, I own both the Yang and the Corn Leaf. I have never disassembled the Yang, so do not know how the tang is constructed. It is sturdy enough for light cutting like I described above, and I have not had any problems with mine whatsoever. I have not pushed the blade any to find the limits of its abilities . It is a very light quick blade and due to its edge profile I don't think it will stand up to a flubbed cut in a substantial target very well. hmmm...interesting, if that Rodell dao doesn't come out (GOD FORBID  ) by the end of the year, then I may settle getting the yang saber! However I'm really concerned how the tang is fastened! I care more if a sword has a weak tang which would be a HUGE problem for me! Cuz the last thing I want is a Flying Helicoptor of Doom!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2010 3:28:28 GMT
It has a through tang, as the end of it is secured with a nut. It is visible inside of the ring on the end of the grip in some pictures of the Yang.
Whether it is a rat tail, or a thicker tang that is stepped down and threaded, I can not say at this point. I will make an effort tomorrow to disassemble mine and let you know what lies beneath.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 5:46:28 GMT
thanks Chuck! ;D But don't wreck your sword just for my sake! I mean I don't really want you to mess up the sword handle or anything...if you can't remove the handle cuz it's epoxied or something then just leave it be!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 4:44:33 GMT
hmmm...I just was looking at an old review of the Hanwei Banshee and that sword has a killer tang! Then again I saw a lot of other Hanwei swords that have small puny tangs. I wonder if the yang saber could be a gem under a pile of junk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2010 3:19:34 GMT
It took longer than a day to get to it Turok, and I can't get the handle assembly to come off of the tang.
It does appear that it is epoxied together. I removed the nut easy enough from the end of the tang, and from there I was at a standstill. I did not want to mar the wooden grip by trying to pry the end cap off to see more of the tang.
Sorry that I could not be more helpful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 3:42:14 GMT
It's okay Chuck, I'll just wait for that Rodell dao then...Have some Good Karma Points for trying man! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 4:21:05 GMT
Kinda ironic that a Chinese company can't make real Chinese swords but can make top-notch reproduction swords of almost every other culture ! Ah well sign of the times...hope that Rodell dao comes out soon!!! ;D Yes, wushu and tai-chi "dancing" didn't help the making and marketing of real blood-n-guts Chinese swords. (I'm currently doing a painting called "Flying Oriental Woman.") However, with the gaining popularity of the Han Dynasty jians, we are seeing some authentic recreations arriving on the market. I don't see how the Hanwai Qi Nation jian is going to fall apart ;D; and I'm now panting at the post office because a Hanwai Han Emperor's sword is coming my way. (even though it doesn't look entirely authentic. Emperor Wu-di would roll over in his grave! ) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 1:11:48 GMT
hmmm...I would be interested to see your painting alanus! After all it can't be THAT bad ;D! BTW, September is almost here and I'm interested if we will see the Rodell dao as part of Hanwei's newest offerings!!! If not then I can always wait... |
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! Ah well sign of the times...hope that Rodell dao comes out soon!!! ;D
) by the end of the year, then I may settle getting the yang saber! However I'm really concerned how the tang is fastened! I care more if a sword has a weak tang which would be a HUGE problem for me! Cuz the last thing I want is a Flying Helicoptor of Doom! 
