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Post by Razor on Apr 30, 2007 23:06:09 GMT
This Chinese broadsword is the first functional sword I bought back in 1994. I have practice a lot with this sword over the years drills, test cutting, and thrusting into archery foam targets, the only than I didn't like was the handle it was to thin by the guard, making it hard and uncomfortable to grip the sword for training. I found these threads on myArmoury and it gave me an idea about thickening the handle www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=1814www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=3808www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=5822I went and bought some wood glue, Welder Adhesive,chamois, dye, and two different size's of hemp cord. Here is the handle, you can see how thin it is by the guard I started with the thinner cord, on the brass I used Welder adhesive and on the wood I used wood glue. When I was done with the wrap I tied the end of the cord to a weight. Next I put on the risers (I put the risers on after because that is where I wanted to thicken the handle, I recommend putting the risers on First.) In between the risers I did two more layers of the thin cord to thicken the handle. I first practice on a wooden dowel and when I dyed and wrapped the chamois on to the dowel I didn't like the way it felt. I have some deer skin so I used that instead. I dyed the leather with mahogany, glued and wrapped it with the thin cord. Here is the finished handle.
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Post by ShooterMike on May 1, 2007 0:03:03 GMT
Nice job, Razor. I especially like the finished color. I've never seen risers on a Chinese dao. But they look like they belong there.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 0:28:44 GMT
Very nice. That's a definite improvement. Did the grip originally have the flat nylon cord wrap that most Chinese swords seem to have, or was it always plain wood? Btw, who's the manufacturer of the sword?
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Post by Razor on May 1, 2007 7:20:48 GMT
Thank you ShooterMike and Kriegschwert
Yeah ShooterMike my darn dao might be the only one with risers,I wasn't even thinking about it I was just trying to thicken the handle.
The grip as always been plain wood Kriegschwert. I don't know who the manufacturer was but I know it came from China.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 14:41:25 GMT
hello, looks great razor! most people seem to want to go the other way when changing the handles, making them thinner and flatter, i was wondering (i have never handled a sword of this type), does the bigger and round handle affect the cutting capabilities of this sword? have u noticed any changes? thanx, chris
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Post by jpfranco on May 1, 2007 15:01:45 GMT
You did a fine job on that handle Congrats. Now you got me thinking about doing a few.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 17:27:28 GMT
The grip as always been plain wood Kriegschwert. I don't know who the manufacturer was but I know it came from China. Darn! (no pun intended ;D) It sounds like it's held up well, so I was hoping I might get one. Well, the search continues.
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Post by Razor on May 2, 2007 7:58:32 GMT
hello, looks great razor! most people seem to want to go the other way when changing the handles, making them thinner and flatter, i was wondering (i have never handled a sword of this type), does the bigger and round handle affect the cutting capabilities of this sword? have u noticed any changes? thanx, chris Hey cs76cs Some Chinese broadswords comes with a round , flat or oval grip, and like any sword with a round handle it is harder to keep edge alignment. My handle was poorly made it was round, oval,and lumpy. A week or two after I got my sword I had to file the lumps down and flatten the sides, the brass by the guard is round the rest is more oval. I thickened the handle by the guard because it was only 2 1/2 inches around and the rest of the handle was 3 3/4inches around, it was very hard to control, the handle is now 4inches around, and handles a lot better. Here is a picture of me holding the sword here is what a Chinese dao handle should look like
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Post by Razor on May 2, 2007 8:03:04 GMT
The grip as always been plain wood Kriegschwert. I don't know who the manufacturer was but I know it came from China. Darn! (no pun intended ;D) It sounds like it's held up well, so I was hoping I might get one. Well, the search continues. Cold Steel as a good one and www.kriscutlery.com/index.htmlas a darn dao and a saber that looks good.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 13:10:01 GMT
hello, thanx razor! i appreciate the info, i am thinking about getting this type of sword somewhere down the line, your handle looks great, chris
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2007 20:25:55 GMT
nice sword handle looks like you did a pretty pro job with it
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 26, 2007 13:25:00 GMT
Razor do you have any shots that show the join on the riser cord? Just wondering how you finished it. Would you recommend hemp for a grip or would it be too rough? Ta
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Post by Razor on May 26, 2007 23:31:10 GMT
Hey Brenno I also read your "Type of cord wrapping grip" thread, so I'm answer both question here. I didn't take any pics to show the joining of the risers. This was my first time gripping a handle, so it was learn as I go. The first riser I did I used a hand clamp to start and finish the riser but it flatten the cord down(Look at the fourth pic down , the riser up against the guard it is a little flat in one area.)so the other risers I used Krazy glue, I glued one end and held it down with my fingers until it dried glued the rest with Welder Adhesive until I got to the other end I Krazy glued it again. It is better to put your risers on first before you wrap with the thinner cord.
Your thread You asked what is a good cord to use. The three you mentioned should work just fine, the hemp was not that bad until I but the risers on then it was a little rough but a very Strong grip, I was debating if I wanted to put the leather on it. Before I got the hemp cords I was going to use round leather shoe lace , that might look cool leather risers with hemp cord grip.
I hope this helps, if you have any more questions let me know and I will help as best that I can. -Razor
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 27, 2007 1:12:40 GMT
Thanks for the food for thought. I like the leather riser idea! I just bought a second Narnia Peters sword. I have already modified my old one. But the leather on the grip is so nice I was loath to take it off. Now I can fully modify and antique the old one. It might make for some side by side before and after shots.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2007 3:12:00 GMT
razor, any suggestions for practical chinese swords in our price range?
jason
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Post by Razor on Jun 3, 2007 5:39:37 GMT
razor, any suggestions for practical chinese swords in our price range? jasonWhat type of Chinese sword's are you interested in
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