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Post by mythosequidae on May 23, 2010 1:50:24 GMT
I have been reading history over at MA, and have seen many suggestions that a good sword may see 100 yrs. of service. If it sees action, it's going to be deeply chipped. Should the edge be taken back to a non-chipped state? That may require the removal of 1/8" or more off of the width, on each side. Maybe the chips would be filed into serrations? What I am thinking is that if 1/8" is removed each time, the sword geometry will evolve into something different. After 100 yrs., I imagine you would have a rapier rather than a broadsword. Are chips acceptable? The basis of this question is that I have a few chipped "antiqued Albions". I don't like the chips, but I love the swords. They are so deeply pitted from rust (and chipped to %$#@) that restoration would render a completely different geometry. (Which might be ok ). My only hope is an antique condition. Sometimes I get really close to grabbing a file and taking the chips out, and blending in a secondary bevel. Refiling the entire bevel is a bit much I think. This is both a historical question, as well as a modern question. How did they deal with it?, as well as how would you deal with it? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2010 2:06:57 GMT
Part of this is not true, you should avoid edge to edge contact, so you shouldn't have a "Deeply" chipped edge, there is a pic of a 1300's cut and thrust sword that survived in a room and was retired after it was sharpened to the softer steel, so no rapier for it, just looking down on countless Gen's of knights.
The Wak I got from Hyoujinsama has some pairing chips in the edge, and are at a certain angle that indicate that and not edge on edge!
700 year old sword, and you can read the history of it's life in what's left of the blade.....SanMarc.
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Post by mythosequidae on May 23, 2010 3:39:16 GMT
Might be hard to concentrate on edge placement when you are covered in blood, sweat and tears. Not to mention fending for your life. Were chipped swords discarded or reground? Sanmarc, perhaps your 700 yr. blade only saw 1 day of war, or none. Maybe it got nicked in practice. Who knows?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2010 4:28:34 GMT
No,
If you ever practice swordfighting you'll quickly see how it works and it is really not that hard to avoid direct contact.
The way you move the sword becomes reflexes when you practice alot and there really no reason why you would get a edge-on edge perpendicular hit.
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Post by Dan Davis on May 23, 2010 11:53:25 GMT
Chips and nicks should be removed; they create stress risers and if left unattended will eventually lead to crack propagation and failure.
Historically, if the chips and nicks were minor they would be filed and ground out. Major damage would cause the blade to simply be replaced and discarded and reforged into a new blade unless it was a family blade with history, when ti would be retired as in San Marc's example.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2010 19:24:16 GMT
Dan Davis is right. We learned this the hard way with one of our more expensive kitchen knifes (was $40~, so it wasnt that expensive). It had gotten a nick from where it fell on the kitchen top, it worked fine for a few months until we were chopping onions with it, the blade snapped at the nick, luckily no injuries occurred.. All throughout this episode, we did notice the nick becoming slightly worse/worse, it did crack slightly but it wasnt enough to cause alarm. The knife it self is replaceable, we're just lucky the knife didnt decide to snap/hurt someone.
We also have another knife, of the same brand/quality but shorter. My sister/her husband decided to use it to cut off a big tree limb, damaged the blade well beyond repair however it kept some of it's sharpness. We're still using it, but you can tell where it's starting to crack with very very very minute nicks long the edge. We'll have to replace that soon too.
Keep in mind these are with steel kitchen knifes, so they're much harder to "break" then swords that are put against harder targets like bamboo.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2010 19:28:56 GMT
chips can create rust also right?
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