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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 0:49:39 GMT
Hey, guys. I'm sorry if this question has been brought up before, but I was just curious. I understand the philosphy behind clay-tempered swords with the ultra hard edge and the softer absorbing spine. I was wondering if there would be any benefit/hinderance to applying this technique to axes? My brother is an old-school Dungeons & Dragons geek (He got me into it growing up ) And he has a love of all things barbarian including those nice double-bladed fantasy axes they always seem to carry. For his birthday or Christmas one year I would like to have a fantasy double-headed axe blade made for him, and I thought it would look super cool to have an active (and true) hamon on it, but I want it to remain completely functional. Any thoughts? Has it been done?
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Post by vayduong on Apr 30, 2010 0:52:14 GMT
from what I understand, viking era axes were done this way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 0:58:01 GMT
Viking era axes were made of iron with steel edge forge welded to the main part. So yes, they had different hardness in edge and back but because of different materials, not any tempering process.
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 30, 2010 0:58:18 GMT
I've seen a lot of the old Japanese "axes" with hamon, whether by design or by effect, but I imagine those particular implements were slightly different then the typical western convention as you're after... Granted, it's quite possible to have a "hamon" on an axe blade of the proper thickness and edge shape...if polished just-so...maybe? I'm going to go with "if vayduong has seen them, they exist, and can be made." Edit: okay shifting to Luka's take.
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Post by Avery on Apr 30, 2010 1:08:07 GMT
Hey, guys. I'm sorry if this question has been brought up before, but I was just curious. I understand the philosphy behind clay-tempered swords with the ultra hard edge and the softer absorbing spine. I was wondering if there would be any benefit/hinderance to applying this technique to axes? My brother is an old-school Dungeons & Dragons geek (He got me into it growing up ) And he has a love of all things barbarian including those nice double-bladed fantasy axes they always seem to carry. For his birthday or Christmas one year I would like to have a fantasy double-headed axe blade made for him, and I thought it would look super cool to have an active (and true) hamon on it, but I want it to remain completely functional. Any thoughts? Has it been done? V.S. to give a short answer to this , yes it was done historically and for that matter, today. The vikings had a couple of ways they did it. One was to create the soft body of the axe; the eye, the spine, the cheeck, the beard, all of that. Then they would weld a hardened "bit" along the blade face. The bit was hardened, carbon steel that was attached to the softer metal of the axes body. Doing basicly the same a D.F. katana does. The other way, ehich didn't result in a hamon that I know of, was to forge the whole blade, heat treat the whole blade, and when they did the final temper they would dip the cutting edge into water and let the rest air cool. Thus creating a differential temper. Now, as longwinded as that was, I'll add this; Creating a hamon on an axe wouldn't be that hard. But trust me, you'll pay a price for it. My suggestion would be to buy to the Hanwei "Heros Axe" and acid etch a hamon onto it. Quick, easy, and most of all, cheap. Rob a.k.a. Sparky did a review of the heros axe that can be seen on the "other weapons"review board. Aside from the hamon, it fits the bill pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 1:19:19 GMT
Thanks for the input, guys!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 6:44:19 GMT
Yeah, wow everything good has been said sooooo ........ yeah ........ nothing to input .........
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 19:10:37 GMT
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Post by sparky on Apr 30, 2010 19:41:12 GMT
Beat me to it! I like my axe. It is one of my favorite weapons. The thing is just tough! Looks cool too. ;D
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