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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2010 6:51:19 GMT
;D Dejay, her's some progres pics...SanMarc. Sorry for the crappy pics, but same excuse...bad camera.. (maybe user to)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2010 10:29:23 GMT
wow, how did you do that checkering on the edges?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 1:58:25 GMT
Thats the origanal sepias, I am showing them for comparison, I left the silver ones smooth, I can do that though....It can be done with a triangle file...or a dremal with a cutting wheel....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 4:54:46 GMT
mmmm, sexy silver sepa, yummy
umm,... maybe it is the camera angle and I hate to point this out, but I feel better to say something than let it go if I see correctly. It sort of seems like your openings for the blade are a bit off center, and uneven. Especially the bottom one. I hope I am wrong, but it looks like it from the pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 5:10:56 GMT
No, your right, these are hand made, not stamped out by machine, they are not as extream in your hand...SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 5:43:03 GMT
No, your right, these are hand made, not stamped out by machine, they are not as extream in your hand...SanMarc. ok, so the camera exaggerated it a bit. I am glad to hear that. I just didn't want you to realize a few days from know and wonder why someone hadn't said something. They are super sexy that is for sure. I personally love silver fittings on swords.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 13:04:00 GMT
Great work Marc-I cant tell you how much I appreciate your efforts-theyll look great on the blade once I give it a light blueing.D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 14:01:15 GMT
oh, ok.
I must agree with ineffableone, centering seems imperfect on pics.....
now that I'm looking at them, they look like the seppa KC uses on their 26/29 swords, and I just love them!
how thick are these silver ones sanmarc?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 16:48:18 GMT
San: egads man, you butcher the crap out of language dontcha? Sepia is a colour, seppa[/n] are what you have there and they are really nice, well done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 18:54:51 GMT
Yep, cant spell in English either!! You should hear my mexican!!
The Sepia are the same thickness as the OG's in the same pick, and you cant see it very well, but they are off center as well, the side cuts hide the look...SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 4:44:21 GMT
Hey my opinion, all seppa should be silver. I am actually planning to pick up some silver coins at the Northwest Mint down by you SanMarc. I might have to grab an extra coin to pound into some seppa myself. ;D might even be enough to make a habaki out of silver. Hmmmm. Wonder if my glass torch will work on silver. Been a while since I did any silver smithing I will have to look up those temps and the torches. The torch is a lower heat soft glass one so might not work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 4:47:40 GMT
Yep, cant spell in English either!! You should hear my mexican!! The Sepia are the same thickness as the OG's in the same pick, and you cant see it very well, but they are off center as well, the side cuts hide the look...SanMarc. You could always blame the spell checker here. It doesn't seem to recognize any sword terms and tries to make them into some other weird word.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 4:55:10 GMT
I can give ya some tips on silver working ineffableone, I just picked up the book the compleat meatlesmithing, covers what info ya need, and I am using mapgas right now, wich is just able to melt the silver...SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 5:45:58 GMT
Hey my opinion, all seppa should be silver. I am actually planning to pick up some silver coins at the Northwest Mint down by you SanMarc. I might have to grab an extra coin to pound into some seppa myself. ;D might even be enough to make a habaki out of silver. Hmmmm. Wonder if my glass torch will work on silver. Been a while since I did any silver smithing I will have to look up those temps and the torches. The torch is a lower heat soft glass one so might not work. Hmm I'm no smith but I think those coins might be too soft being 999 or 999,9 silver I would prefer 925/sterling. For seppa it's probably easier to get a sheet of silver and you just cut out the seppa. You could make a habaki out of this stuff to and you can get it in different thickness's. Oh and sanmarc, nice work!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 6:11:06 GMT
I used .999 fine, silver work hardens, so you have to annel it evry once in a while, but it will hold up, the Sterling is now made with more copper than the other alloys, so not as hard as it once was, and more people who cant ware copper now cant ware silver sterling!! SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 6:11:25 GMT
Hmm, you might be right about being too soft, Bart. I was thinking it would make it easier to work with, but definitely habaki would not be good too soft and the pressure on seppa might create a little looseness. I do already have some silver coins that are 999 and they do seem pretty sturdy, but they are much thicker. I will have to look into if 999 silver could handle it or not. Still going to pick up some more coins. Northwest Mint is the maker of my first coin from 1986, with a wonderful relief of the Pacific Northwet on it.
Good looking out. Thanks. Since I do plan on cutting with this sword, my fittings will need to hold up and take some pressure.
Isn't SanMarc's silver seppa just super sexy though!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 6:33:00 GMT
Well, I got a couple of ounces of bullion, one older one that seems to have been handled a lot is kinda worn. When I was at a bank I handled some big kilo or more silver bullions ones (a long time ago) that didn't have any markings left because it was handled so much. You also see this with silver coins that have been carried a lot as lucky charms, some have no relief left at all. But as I said I'm not an expert and it might be suitable. If it is suitable you could also check out art clay. It's some weird kinda clay that you can shape in whatever way and when you heat it it turns into 999 silver (they have copper and gold to). But I never tried it so I don't know how good it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 6:53:10 GMT
Well, I am going to make my fittings for my Nihonto out of .999 fine, it is easyer to work as long as you annel it, you can leave it work hardend for the last part, and the Old Nihonto used Copper Habaki, so pure silver cant be that bad!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 9:06:05 GMT
Definitely the purer the silver the better as long as it is functional. Functional is always king over cosmetics for me. I do however like pretty stuff and want to make my sword nice and pretty. I have always found gold rather gaudy except in limited use as accents. I think silver and platinum are much prettier. Hmm, Northest Mint does sell platinum too. Not horrible prices at $79.93 for 1 gram bar of platinum. That is 3/8 inch x 5/8 inch (9mm x 15mm) Bar. ;D Maybe as menuki just as they are! Now that is an interesting idea, and one I kind of like. Since menuki have historic use as currency, to put some tiny platinum bars in could be very fun and cool. I think I just sold myself on this idea! ;D
Well, after a little research it looks like platinum might be doable for some seppa or other details. ;D Though it is expensive, it actually has some nice properties.
from wiki As a pure metal, platinum is silvery-white in appearance, lustrous, ductile, and malleable. It does not oxidize at any temperature, although it is corroded by halogens, cyanides, sulfur, and caustic alkalis. Platinum is insoluble in hydrochloric and nitric acid, but dissolves in aqua regia to form chloroplatinic acid, H2PtCl6.
Platinum's resistance to wear and tarnish is well suited for making fine jewelry. The metal has an excellent resistance to corrosion and high temperatures and has stable electrical properties. All of these characteristics have been exploited for industrial applications.
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Post by Dan Davis on Apr 30, 2010 11:21:39 GMT
Regarding platinum: high resistance to corrosion is NOT an asset with seppa, but .999 silver has been used for centuries and a lot of them are still around and still working.
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