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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 0:20:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 3:21:09 GMT
P.M. Dave Kelly, he should know.
No makers marks on it?? It does look lajgit...SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 3:24:08 GMT
It appears to be a Prussian M1889 Infantry Officer's Degen. Based on the photos it looks original. Is there a maker's name on it?
PS--I don't recommend flexing the blade.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 6:25:27 GMT
Worth further investigation, has signs of being legit, but with just those photos it would be hard to say. Worthy of finding an expert to look at it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 9:19:37 GMT
Yeah that an 89 infantry Degen awright. ;D The scabbard throat is still on the blade and covering the ricasso. Need to loosen any screw still on it and slip the throat piece off. Makers mark should be there. Patination is good and the blade looks to have mostly old grease attached. Maybe some damage to the point as gravity took everything to the bottom of the scabbard and mucked it up. See that a lot with neglected heirlooms that get tossed in a trunk and forgotten. Nice piece. Congrats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 11:17:18 GMT
Wow, really? I really didnt expect this to be anything at all, lol. So, ill take off the throat this weekend, and ill post some pics of that when i do. I wasnt planning on keeping this blade, I dont particularly like this style, and i think it would be better if i gave it to someone who would fully appreciate it.. Do you guys have any idea what it might be worth?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 13:29:17 GMT
Well, I would appreciate it. But I somehow doubt I could afford it...
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Post by Dom T. on Apr 26, 2010 15:16:27 GMT
Would not have thought that was an antique. Looks like every other cavalry/whatever saber I've seen at a gun show. Then again, I don't know diddly-squat about antiques. I'm also interested to hear how much these can go for. Not that I'm thinking of buying one or anything, just curious.
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 26, 2010 15:20:02 GMT
Had a healthy suspicion this was the real deal but as this isn't my "area" I shut up and listened. Did some quick Googling using some of the words used by Johnathan and Dave, and it seems they did nail the model. Can't really get a lot of good hits on value, though. I'm seeing a lot of similar blades in much better condition asking $600+, but there was another that may have been a modern repro but listed as original with an "estimated value" of $150-200. I figure the right crowd might give about that much or more for this one...but what do I know?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 20:44:58 GMT
Is it worth mentioning that you shouldn't try to "polish" it up just yet. Yeah, shiney things are great, but if this a true antique, it will be worth more to a collector without having been polished. Cleaning it with a light oil should be fine, but stay away from abrasives for now.
Personally I like the design but it would be pretty low on my "swords to buy" list.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 21:20:51 GMT
The 1889 swords were the bulwark edged weapons of the German Army going into WWI. So there were a lot of them produced.
Quality of these varied widely from common issue to highly presonalized/expensive show pieces.
Ebay is the commoner bazaar for a lot of these mid to lower grade pieces. And there are serious collectors and antiques dealers lurking about shopping for things they want for resale.
What's your's worth? I'd need to see a couple more pics. Just how bad off is the foible (point) of the blade? The scabbard is all there. Worn. With the right screws you can put the throat back on. Having a usable scabbard and or a sword knot adds a grade to your sword.
Realistically I'd give you $250.00.
Heck clean it up and put it on e-bay with a opening bid of $225.00 and see what hapens....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 21:36:56 GMT
Wow, are you serious? I had no idea it was worth that much... Actually, the point is only rusted on the surface, it could be pretty easy to clean off with a little polishing compound. So, if i were to sell it, you would suggest to go ahead and clean the blade of rust? Im actually a little amazed by all this, lol..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 22:22:51 GMT
As stated before, do not polish it. If there is grease on the blade, remove it. I would leave conservation to the collector who buys it. But that is just what I would do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 22:25:59 GMT
Well, thats kinda what i thought.. I know you never do that kind of stuff to antiques, so it makes sense that this case would follow suit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 21:37:36 GMT
Ya know I really do hate being played the fool. Mr Griffith has had this sword listed on ebay for some time ( there are only two days left on the offer and he has no bids.) Was probably wondering why his brown paper wrapper degen isn't moving: since he has it offered at a starting price of $700.00. My 250-300 estimate of top price is solid. There are two fine quality (Immaculate Bladed ) degens being offered for $555.00. Really guy, I'd of given you the same answer with out the sob story...
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