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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 18:17:28 GMT
Now, I'm a sword noob.. so inform me, what's not to love about the warrior katana? Price, aesthetics, weight and balance (From my personal experience. Others feel otherwise.), price, quality of fittings, price. Did I mention price? It really is. I've always loved most of the cold steel brand going back many years, but I'd never considered their swords to be worth taking seriously. Price, weight and construction concerns mostly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 19:05:54 GMT
MMk. so that makes more sense. I'll leave the bigger company of cold steel with the people who arn't as deep as shoppers as I. I'd love to support SBG and buy a Kuramono, that is a good looking sword IMO.
And for what it's worth, on trueswords.com you can buy Cold Steel's Warrior Katana for $300.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 19:57:28 GMT
The little I know of the CS Warrior Katana is this ; 1) It is heavy and handles like an axe (someone called it a katanaxe). 2) Someone said it looses its sharpness quickly. 3) The fittings, when looked at up close, are below average and not traditional. 4) It is a tough blade that can take a lot of punishment. In the end, I think it is a good beater blade who happens to look like a katana but is sold at an unreasonable price. For 300 $, they are surer values ; Hanwei, Dynasty Forge, Cheness (although Cheness tends to have inferior fittings, compared to Hanwei and DF). About the rest of Cold Steel products, I like some of them just for their inherent coolness/macho factor. Who wouldn't want a 7 1/2'' blade on his folding knife
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 21:44:42 GMT
I LOVE watching Cold Steel promos. They are entertaining as hell, though they should not allow Lynn Thompson to speak. WIN ;D The little I know of the CS Warrior Katana is this ; 1) It is heavy and handles like an axe (someone called it a katanaxe). 2) Someone said it looses its sharpness quickly. 3) The fittings, when looked at up close, are below average and not traditional. Valid points. *My Warrior series O-Katana is an absolute beast to cut with, to the point where it may as well be a strength training tool. *I don't know about them losing their edges quickly, I haven't used mine enough to dull even a stainless blade. *I'm not sure what constitutes traditional or high quality in fittings (so I'm speaking out of ignorance here), but I can tell you that the ones on my sword are tight and tough as all hell. The ito feels like naval rope, and the rest of it is good hard iron. In the end, I think it is a good beater blade who happens to look like a katana but is sold at an unreasonable price. For 300 $, they are surer values ; Hanwei, Dynasty Forge, Cheness (although Cheness tends to have inferior fittings, compared to Hanwei and DF). precisely why I bought mine (from KoA, for $315). I was afraid I would hurt a Hanwei, and I was afraid of fitting failure on a Cheness... never looked into Dynasty Forge. About the rest of Cold Steel products, I like some of them just for their inherent coolness/macho factor. Who wouldn't want a 7 1/2'' blade on his folding knife honest to anything holy you care to name, simply owning and knowing how to use the Triple-action folder has broken the ice enough to get me laid before. She was nothin' special, and there was no substance between her ears, but that incident causes me to stand behind the manliness factor of Cold Steel products.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 21:55:49 GMT
thanks for the input, lumaman and sebastian. If I was into short shopping I'd get a cold steel, but SBG has helped open my eyes to what awesomeness swords can possess.
I'll settle with my original excitement over the Valiant Amoury Signature like
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 22:32:36 GMT
Loc978 ; Getting laid with the help of a CS product, now that's some high-level manliness... You should send your story to Cold Steel, they will surely post it in the customer's letter section of their website About the Warrior Serie Kat', your input is very similar to the one I had, from another owner of this product. Dewskerz ; thanks, I'm happy to be of help. When you get your next sword, please share the joy by showing it on the forum
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 23:14:54 GMT
oh I will. I'm going for the Kriegschwert, and I'm going to wait until there's another production run of it because Christian Fletcher is willing to wrap the scabbard and handle in black for no additional charge.
And I'm going to see how much extra it will cost to get a cross etched in the center of the pommel on either side.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 23:33:45 GMT
Update : Cold Steel have new clips in the same link I gave in the OP.... I'll be back in a moment, I have to change my pants.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 23:37:42 GMT
Like I said though, I LOVE watching Cold Steel promos. They are entertaining as hell, though they should not allow Lynn Thompson to speak. BAHAHAHAHA! I love it. Really when considering a Cold Steel blade, one must do their own research from outside sources. The videos, while entertaining, are often misleading i find. Also they source from forges in various places in China, India, and other areas, so that puts the quality spectrum from fantastic to horribly bad depending on what you like (such as india-made blades not having a distal taper, or china-made blades having awkward balance, etc etc). Still, Cold Steel has had SOME very good blades in the past. In particular, I am thinking of their Barong sword; which was produced in japan of all places. It has a great balance point for a one-handed short sword (3in. from base of blade) and is very nicely heat-treated (Rumor has it that Lynn was unaware of it being Differentially hardened and priced it for 175 because he thought it was a through hardened sword). The price was great for the value and like all Cold steel products, it wasn't hard to find for much much cheaper than MSRP before it was discontinued. It's too bad that this blade was discontinued. It was great, although the fittings were, like true cold steel fashion, not entirely accurate historically. for the price I couldn't complain though, and would definitely buy again. A more historically accurate look they could have gone for while still retaining afforability could have been done easily, though. Something like this (I'm getting mine currently rehilted to look like this) would have sufficed: Granted, these traditionally had pure silver fittings, but they could have gone with stainless steel or nickel-plated steel fittings to keep the cost down.
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Post by Avery on Mar 20, 2010 0:21:05 GMT
I just spent about an hour watching some of the various videos....man I LMAO on some of those. Don't get me wrong, they do have some decent things that aren't too overpriced, but as a whole I don't care for their stuff, too expensive IMO. I do absolutely love my gunstock warclub, and even have an old riflemans 'hawk that I bought years back, but most of their swords are wayyyyyy overpriced.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 20, 2010 0:52:04 GMT
You know, speaking to their "katana"(-like) line, do they still offer their Dragonfly series? Those were nice looking swords, but way overpriced, still. If I could have gotten that wakizashi for closer to $150-175, I'd have done it. But nooooooo...they want $500+ [profanity] dollars. Actualy, looking at the line again, it seems the o-tanto (did they have that last time I looked into these? ) would be much more to my liking...but that thing is STILL $300!! WHAT!?!? Okay so Kult of Athena has it at $260 but that is still entirely too much. Unrelated note: What the hell happened to Swords of Might's website? It looks awful... Anyway, again, I really, really like their double-edge subhilts (black bear, OSS) but damn it if 8" isn't just too long. 5", sure. 6", maybe. 8"? No thanks. Their "swords" are just...bad. Short of the simple weight and balance, I haven't yet heard of anybody who didn't break a pommel on their non-Japanese swords. The Hand-and-a-half used to have a huge problem with this; I actually got to handle ShooterMike's broken Grosse Messer (which was nice...except the pommel fell off...) and I seem to recall there were similar issues with their two-handed great sword or whatever they're calling it. I'll admit some of their knife designs are nice, and a lot of them are quite reasonably priced...but I can't see myself buying Cold Steel based on principle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2010 12:33:06 GMT
Paul's most personally recommended sight to purchase cold steel is trueswords.com
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Post by Dom T. on Mar 20, 2010 12:35:11 GMT
Yeah, the Cold Steel videos are always fun to watch. Also it's interesting to see their different set backgrounds lol, how they switch from that faux riveted metal to the dungeon-esque one and such. I can't wait for the day Cold Steel makes a video of one of their katana cutting through a tank. Because if anyone would do it in a promo vid, it would be Cold Steel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2010 12:40:18 GMT
If I'm going to spend that much on a knife I will buy from fableblades personally, CS does nothing for me, sword or knife wise.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2010 18:45:49 GMT
I suppose if nothing else the videos show that folks without training or experience can still cut without worrying the CS sword or machetes will break like stainless steel one so at least we know some of the blades are tough. However I do have to say that much of their form is asking for trouble. It would only be a matter of when and where someone gets hurt whether it be bad form or too much strain being put on the sword due to bad form. Guys like Lynn Thompson who we have seen cutting for years now should know better. The other guys who for the most part look like new faces I cannot really fault for bad form if they are just starting to cut.
If Cold Steel would drop the prices to about half their retail price, I would consider buying them as a cheap and simple beater, but until then I will have to stay clear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2010 0:18:23 GMT
"*WARNING: Contents May Be Too Extreme For Some Viewers"
LOL, yeah these were funny. If I ever need to kill some rope while wearing a black shirt, tie and suit pants I know who to call.
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