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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 4:12:01 GMT
How do you tell the difference between the different styles of Jian? What marks a Han from a Qin from a Yuan from a Ming from a Qing from a Tang jian?
I have finally gotten into a posiion to be able to afford a Jian from Garrett and am looking for the right base on which to pile my furniture designs, so I would love an explanation of the differences, and pics to illustrate your points would be most helpful.
Also, which dynasty did the blade coming from the Fu Dog mouth? I've always thought that was pretty cool.
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Post by sicheah on Feb 16, 2010 4:14:53 GMT
Here is a crash course on history on Chinese weapon by Thomas Chen: thomaschen.freewebspace.com/index.htmlOne thing to note is that there is quite a number of different types jian and dao of different shape and sizes even within the same dynasty. Sometimes pictures help a lot in deciding a custom jian/dao to get one from Garrett.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 4:24:17 GMT
Thanks for the link, sicheah, I will take more time this week to read it fully, but my quick perusal says it doesn't cover the Jian at all. It seems to be all about the Dao.
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Post by sicheah on Feb 16, 2010 5:09:21 GMT
Okay so I am going to "steal" most of Thomas Chen pictures here Here is the sword of Goujian at the warring state period: ![](http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/images/goujian.jpg) Note that even up to the Han dynasty the fittings where quite similar, only that the swords are longer and are now made of steel and using the lamination technique mostly discussed in Japanese section: ![](http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/images/jadefittings5.jpg) My Han repro from Garrett (lol) ![](http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx344/sicheah/CIMG0435.jpg) The later Han and Sui dynasty has a nice ring pommel at the end: ![](http://chineseswords.freewebspace.com/images/sui-ring.jpg) Here is a generic tang court fittings: ![](http://chineseswords.freewebspace.com/images/karaswordx2.jpg) Some Ming jian fittings ![](http://chineseswords2.freewebspace.com/images/face.jpg) and Qing (and quite a lot in Zheng-wu's website ![](http://chineseswords.freewebspace.com/images/new2.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 5:39:11 GMT
Are those attempted image links from the ThomasChen site? They, ah, didn't come through. But if they're there, I'm sure I'll find them as I continue to read through. Quite a bit more on there than the page you originally linked to would suggest. Those stupid Google ads are extremely irritating, though. They virtually guarantee I won't buy anything I see on them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2010 3:50:44 GMT
What's even more interesting is " what was the style/technique used with jian from different eras?"
Granted certain thing would be the same (bodies move only certain ways), but wouldn't it be fascinating to have some evidence of styles used left over???
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