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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 2:20:18 GMT
Hey guys looking for some helpful input about celtic swords such as ones similar to the one cuchulain would have used. Which sword would the all know forumites recommend as the best hard use cutter in this category of sword?
Thank you for any opinions, War
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 11, 2010 3:01:46 GMT
War: Huh, what are you good for? (Sorry, it's been that kind of day---hope everyone gets the reference.) Here's the place I'd start my search: www.sword-buyers-guide.com/ancient-swords.html#CelticAlthough there's been a good deal of ferment in other parts of the reproduction Western blade market, I'm not aware of any recent changes in the Celtic sphere. Then here's KOA's battle ready ancient swords link, if you paw through all the junky old gladii you can find some Celtic(esque) blades in there: www.kultofathena.com/swords-ancient-br.aspI'm guessing you want steel, not bronze? Edited to add: If you're not hep to the Del Tin rap . . . and I don't have any, so take it with a grain (or pound) of salt, but Del Tins seem to be midway between reenactor blades and stage combat blades---not, I think, out of the box stellar cutters (since they come unsharpened). Hope this helps!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 3:04:39 GMT
Huh, what are you good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again, now! ;D
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Post by alvin on Feb 11, 2010 3:26:24 GMT
Good God Ya'll !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 4:43:45 GMT
Cisco Kid Was a Freind Of mine...........
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 4:48:03 GMT
The Hound of Ulster would have had a patterned welded long sword from about 59BC to 02 AD, so there is your start point, look at the swords from this period, the ones from the museums, not in the catalogs, then compare them to what you can find, you will find some thing in steel that had the blade shape, then you will need to make your own hilt and pommel/handle to make it look right, hope thats helps....SanMarc.
If you need it made, I can help, For the budget....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 11:32:22 GMT
Thanks for all the info guys. San im gonna take a look at that period and ill let you know.
Thanks again, War
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 12:19:24 GMT
No problem man, I have read all the books on the red branch, and the cattle raid of cooly....SanMarc.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 11, 2010 14:52:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 15:12:12 GMT
Now that was funny, would have been better if they wrote it in the Irish Broug.....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 0:04:45 GMT
Yeah i love celtic mythology and legend. My family is from ireland and funny enough my name is cooley. My grandfather used to tell me when i was little that our family came from the descendants of the cooleys from that story. Is it true who knows, but it never hurts to have a really cool background story about your family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 0:57:30 GMT
The only decent Celtic Iron-age swords that are reasonably affordable are made by Del Tin (available at Kult of Athena: www.kultofathena.com/celtic.asp ). DT gets lots of criticism for being overly heavy, but their Celtic swords are right on, in terms of weight, balance, what have you. Problem is, they are a bit spendy. Deepeeka also makes a reasonably accurate Celtic sword, and it comes with a fairly accurate scabbard. But Deepeeka tends to be bottom of the barrel quality wise, and is best avoided unless you want just a costume piece. Kris Cutlery makes a very nice sword they call a "celtic sword". It's been reviewed here a couple times. I have one, it's a tad heavy for it's size, but a hellacious little cutter. It is a bronze-age design, so it's not really accurate for the iron age. Nice sword anyway. Or, you can get one of those leafy-bladed "Celtic swords" with the funky art-deco "anthroid" hilts. Gen 2 and CASI make decent ones. They're not at all accurate, and the hilt reminds me of those pedestrian warning signs, but lots of people seem to like them, so....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 7:49:03 GMT
I've been wanting to do a late iron age project for a while... I was looking at the H/T viking sword, but I wanted something without a fuller. You know, Deepeeka blades would more historically accurate. Swords of that time period had little, if any, tempering or hardening. lol Maybe that's the point where being historically accurate becomes less fun though...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 12:35:09 GMT
For a blade, buy Windlass Germanic longsword (that parallel beast without fuller), shorten it, grind off some weight, and you have a nice iron age blade.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 17:45:52 GMT
I was thinking the same thing... Unfortunately, KOA doesn't have any more in stock. Windlass Classic Hoplite, Late Roman sword, and even the Quama have potential. They're just so short though... Sigh. Lol Wish I had my own forge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 2:28:41 GMT
Sorry to bring up an old thread...Iron age Ireland tends to be pretty slim in regards to surviving artifacts from this period. swords are especially rare, at least in a preserved state where one can actually see a definitive blade shape and all of it's dynamic properties. Contrary to popular thought though, Cuchullain likely did not have a 'longsword'. All Irish sword finds range from 20 -24+" OAL from the Iron age period up to about the 4th century AD. Not one sword that would match continental sword sizes of Celtic/Gallic manufacture comes close. Yes, some of these 'may' have been imported. Nothing like this has survived. The primary weapon of the Irish warrior was his spear and/or javelins. Swords were prestige weapons defining the upper class warriors from the rank and file. Here is a shorter Irish(20" OAL) sword fashioned after remains found in Ireland: Attachments:
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