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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 13:47:27 GMT
Hi Guys, just wanted to post up some pics that I had taken of my Cold Steel Gim dis-assembled. The tang looks pretty beefy, and the handle seems very well fitted. I got curious, and finally took it apart.  Also, I have no idea how to do attachments on this forum:) picasaweb.google.ca/jblakey/ColdSteelGimPics#Thanks, jason |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 14:48:24 GMT
Thanks for the link ,good to see as I am expecting my Gim to arrive tomorrow .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 17:54:10 GMT
i like this sword. i have been looking into it for quite a while. but one thing perplexes me... why do most swords in our price range have a welded bolt for the pommel nut. i have a PC agincourt that is fully peened, and a tinker hand and a half that is not welded, but the tang has been cut into the threaded area. why cant others do this in our price range. i mean the CS gim has an awesome reputation, but it appears from your pics that it has the welded end screw on it. at least it is only the end and not like the SLO's that have the whole tang as a welded bolt, but still, i just dont get it. i know that when done right, the welded bolt is secure, but it still gets to me somewhat. i know i am talking bad about it and will still end up buying the gim one day... just venting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 3:49:53 GMT
I like it. There has been much discussion of pommel nuts vs screw on pommels vs peened and the ultimate consensus was that it's not a question of which you have, only a question of how well it is done. The CS Gim was repeatedly mentioned in that thread as an example how to do the pommel screw right. I am glad it has it, though. Made it easier for me to add a tassel to mine.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 5:20:38 GMT
cool... my only problem is do i want the CS gim or the rodell jian first... they both have their major plus sides.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 5:33:54 GMT
Tough choice ,I went for the CS Gim ,mine should be arriving today .I wanted a tough and extremely sharp blade ,plus personally I just prefer the overall look of the CS Gim
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 7:13:01 GMT
i am wondering if the rodell is one of those marquenched blades.. if it is it is very sturdy... but i ave seen some danged good videos of the CS gim in action. not to mention that they are on sale at trueswords. if i have enough left over after my current tuition installment at school.. i might just get a gim. my wife is talking about getting a rodell for me as a gift. wowo it couldnt get any better. shhhh dont tell her my plan... she might not buy the rodell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 8:18:06 GMT
Ha ha ha , well I just picked up my CS Gim now from customs ,after paying all the taxes and customs duties grumble grumble grumble ..............
The sword is great , love the finish .It looks so much better in person than on any pics . The blade is razor sharp , scary sharp actually.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Feb 10, 2010 21:06:46 GMT
+1 for Jblakey for the effort and time he took to share with us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 21:34:50 GMT
Ha ha ha , well I just picked up my CS Gim now from customs ,after paying all the taxes and customs duties grumble grumble grumble .............. The sword is great , love the finish .It looks so much better in person than on any pics . The blade is razor sharp , scary sharp actually. congrats dude. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 7:46:20 GMT
Thanks , Its a great sword . Did some cutting with it today and wow is this thing sharp and tough .I was cleaning it afterwards and accidentally knocked it off the table with the blade tip hitting the tiled floor . It made a hole in the Tile but not a scratch on the sword ! So I am impressed .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 19:01:34 GMT
Thanks , Its a great sword . Did some cutting with it today and wow is this thing sharp and tough .I was cleaning it afterwards and accidentally knocked it off the table with the blade tip hitting the tiled floor . It made a hole in the Tile but not a scratch on the sword ! So I am impressed . Ha ha. I have a similar cut in my tile floor that is sword related. Glad I'm not the only one. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 23:17:06 GMT
Thanks , Its a great sword . Did some cutting with it today and wow is this thing sharp and tough .I was cleaning it afterwards and accidentally knocked it off the table with the blade tip hitting the tiled floor . It made a hole in the Tile but not a scratch on the sword ! So I am impressed . be careful... i had a UC ikazuchi slide out of the saya after too much oil and cost me 15 stitches ( i think it was 15) and $600 at the ER. wish i had lidocane and a good needle and thread... woulda been cheaper. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 12:43:28 GMT
I was practicing strikes with my Gim inside shortly after getting it and misjudged how much room I had. Made contact with the 14 Gg portion of my SCA helm - not at top speed/power. 1/4 gouge in the helm. No mark on the sword.
I practice outside now...
edit: that's a 1/4 in deep, not long. About 2 inches long...
2nd edit: Well, maybe not quite so deep, now I think about it. I am going off memory since I don't exactly have access to my helm to measure right now what with being in a different state and all...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 12:57:43 GMT
Wow ,yeah the CS Gim is super tough .At first when I saw its blade I thought it was a little on the thin side and had my doubts that it was really as tough as what Iv seen on all the CS Videos ,but I must say I am impressed .Had a cold steel warrior Chisa Katana which I hated ,but this CS Gim is definitely a keeper . My first chinese sword and I must say I am really happy with it .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 20:45:09 GMT
Thanks , Its a great sword . Did some cutting with it today and wow is this thing sharp and tough .I was cleaning it afterwards and accidentally knocked it off the table with the blade tip hitting the tiled floor . It made a hole in the Tile but not a scratch on the sword ! So I am impressed . be careful... i had a UC ikazuchi slide out of the saya after too much oil and cost me 15 stitches ( i think it was 15) and $600 at the ER. wish i had lidocane and a good needle and thread... woulda been cheaper. I'd be pretty impressed if you could sow yourself up. I'd like to see that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2010 0:23:28 GMT
oh BTW what is edge geometry on the gim?
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Post by genocideseth on Mar 16, 2010 1:28:04 GMT
be careful... i had a UC ikazuchi slide out of the saya after too much oil and cost me 15 stitches ( i think it was 15) and $600 at the ER. wish i had lidocane and a good needle and thread... woulda been cheaper. I'd be pretty impressed if you could sow yourself up. I'd like to see that. I doubt it would be too hard with enough will power and alcohol (For drinking  ). Sober, I did give myself a tattoo. Though not in the same league, really (Though I could feel the needle puncture my skin, almost like poking a hole through leather), I imagine sewing one's self would not be too tough... If, in fact, you are not a wimp. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2010 17:26:51 GMT
Nah it wouldnt be too hard. you wouldnt need to even be that macho, if you had lidocane.
on another note, how is the inside of handle on CS gim made? is it round bore, or custom fit?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2010 5:13:07 GMT
I like the Jian pattern sword, but I am not impressed with the modern rendering of the "Gim" sword. The transition from blade to tang is a major weak point...all shock loads to the blad are transmitted directly to the sharp transition which would eventually lead to failure if the sword were actually used for combat. Worse is the threaded pommel rod, yet another weak point. The problem with "modern" swords is they are generally patterned after originals without regard to modern concepts of engineering, and stress management.
One of the many reasons Katana have been so successful over the centuries is the way the blade transitions into the tang...a slight taper, with a hilt little smaller than the blade itself...great strength there.
Anyone considering they might ever weild a blade in actually combat must consider what happens when a full force swing with the "thrust" located at the handle, causes the blade to impact significant resistance some 15-20" from that force creating powerful bending and twisting forces that over time (in some cases instantly) can cause the blade to fail at the weakest point--a sharp transition from blade width to tang...
The above missive is my way of saying that while I certainly appreciate the fine finishing work on many modern swords, seeing the "guts" of the Cold Steel Gim left me...well, cold.
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