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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 19:24:20 GMT
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Post by sicheah on Feb 2, 2010 20:42:08 GMT
It is designed purely for martial arts use. In my opinion given its whippy blade is even less functional than practical broadsword.
Hanwei should announce the release the cutting dao designed by scott rodell anytime soon (I hope...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 1:38:35 GMT
The "water song" sword is a pure sport wushu weapon, it has no practical value outside of wushu competition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 5:24:55 GMT
hmm, to bad. After I posted this I saw where Wikipedia said the oxtail broadswords didn't appear until the later 19th century, I always imagined they were an older design. It seems like almost every usable, lower priced Chinese sword is a martial arts piece rather than a historically-inspired reproduction. Do you know of any historically based Chinese swords that don't cost a lot of money?  Also I'm curious, why do so many martial arts swords have such incredibly thin/flexible blades? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 11:38:28 GMT
If I had to wager a guess, I would say it was because martial arts is mostly sport competition nowadays and the practioners use the whippy blades because they,re much lighter, much more showy, and make the woosh and warble noises that add flair to their katas. It's really kinda sax to see what the grand traditions of old have evolved into. There are so few true martial arts schools teach budo. They should rename them acrobat-fu or all-I-care-about-are-pointsdo. Anyways... Off of my soapbox.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 12:13:27 GMT
xerxes, that happens to be our biggest lament in this forum. For good historically inspired Chinese swords you basically have two options Jin-Shi who does custom work, and waiting for the Scott Rodell designed cutting Dao to come out. Jin-Shi customs can be had for prices starting around the $300 US mark.
As for the Wushu thing, think of it this way - what I practice, taijiquan (Tai Chi Ch'uan) often isn't even though of as a real martial art, and instructors who know and can teach combat applications to the form movements are often few and far between. There are actually quite a few student of Taiji sword in this forum, and we all regret that often all we can find are Wushu blades.
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Post by sicheah on Feb 3, 2010 12:24:04 GMT
Yes you are correct xerxes, the oxtail broadsword appears pretty late during the Qing dynasty. They are often (incorrectly) refer the oxtail as a "civilian sword" as it was not officially listed as a military weapon (a typical Chinese civilian at that time is too poor to own a sword). If I am not mistaken Garrett at Jin-Shi still have some oxtail sword for sale in the sub $200 price range. jin-shi.com/production.htmThe more common dao type would be the willow-leaf (liuye) dao. The willow-leaf is often mixed up with the older goose-quill (yanmao) variant. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 14:22:31 GMT
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Post by sicheah on Feb 3, 2010 15:00:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 22:32:37 GMT
Thanks for your opinion! I did see Paul's review but wanted opinions anyway. I think I'll look forward to the Hanwei cutting dao.
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