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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 6:32:19 GMT
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 29, 2010 10:12:07 GMT
Rauta, I know next to nothing about the historical accuracy of these three so I probably shouldn't be posting.
I do happen to have these three so I'll try to answer what I can.
The Parazonium has no plastic parts. That is wood sandwitched between the guards mine came painted black like the wood grip.
I've never seen a pommel like the one on the Gladiator sword before but that don't mean there wasn't one.
As for the Roman dagger. The Windlass site says it's Based on remains in the British Museum. Make of that what you will.
That's all I got.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 17:07:19 GMT
I don't know much about greek or roman swords but here only wood hilted dagger looks like something that could be at least similar to something historical. If you don't get any more answers here, you might want to try on myarmoury forum, there are guys that know ancient swords and daggers well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 2:03:42 GMT
The short answer to all your questions: No. The parazonium isn't even really a Greek weapon -- it's a Roman one. It was a dagger or short sword carried by higher-ranking officers (and I don't know what it looked like, so I don't really know if this is an accurate depiction of one or not. I'd put money on Not.) "Gladiator' sword is pure fantasy... The "Roman Pugio Dagger" is likewise fairly fantastic. Although there are Roman daggers with organic (bone and/or wood) hilts, this only remotely resembles any that I've seen. Accepted as a Seax? No way! This is about as non-seax-like as a... ummm... non-seax-like knife can get. Although if you get the other LARPers really drunk, then you might have a chance... Basically if you value historical accuracy in your pre-Viking-era weapons, you'll generally want to avoid MRL/Windlass. This is especially true for Roman-era weapons; Windlass tends to avoid historical accuracy in it's ancient weapons like it were something unspeakably vile....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 18:45:04 GMT
Great questions. Why did I think to ask those? Thank you for bringing this topic up. Very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 20:07:22 GMT
Great questions. Why did I think to ask those? Thank you for bringing this topic up. Very interesting. I have a secret, irrational desire for ancient roman or greek small sword or dagger. These three just happened to look good to my eye and acceptable to my wallet. For me one of the most important things to check about replicas is their historicity. I havent decided yet. Im still thinking do I really need that sort of things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2010 4:20:42 GMT
Yeah, the Windlass "Gladiator sword" always looked a bit off to me in it's pictures somehow. I have a "roman dagger" I bought at a Ren fair years ago, I thought it was awesome when I got it, although now I realize it is almost a total fantasy design with a Roman theme. Probably the only two ancient swords that Windlass makes that are somewhat historically accurate are their "Spartan Lakonian" and their "Pompeii Gladius". Other than the blade steel, I think these swords should be historically accurate enough for anyone other than a serious reenactor/collector. Here's KOA links to those two, in case you don't know what I'm talking about: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=500598&name=Roman+Pompeii+Gladiuswww.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=401178&name=Spartan+LakonianAlso, I have this thing. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=M2289&name=Roman+GladiusIt's likely not overly historically accurate and I don't like the way it fells/handles, although mine was very solid. The tang looks a bit thin and I don't think it is tempered, although I'm just going by experience when I say it took a lot of abusive use before the grip cracked and the tang took a slight set. Just thought that was worth mentioning for anyone here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2010 18:53:30 GMT
Great questions. Why did I think to ask those? Thank you for bringing this topic up. Very interesting. I have a secret, irrational desire for ancient roman or greek small sword or dagger. These three just happened to look good to my eye and acceptable to my wallet. For me one of the most important things to check about replicas is their historicity. I havent decided yet. Im still thinking do I really need that sort of things. Ha ha thats great. I too love anything Greek or Roman artifacts, especially swords and daggers. The history is also fascinating to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2010 19:43:11 GMT
The funny thing is for Historical correctness, the much maligned company Deepeeka is actually the way to go. They are making great strides turning out correct Gladii and Pugio. Their Roman armor and helmets are really not too bad overall, with some of really good authentic copies of the Coolus, Gallic A&B and others. The Lorica Hamata and Lorica Segmentata are quite good now. Yeah, the weapons are made of soft untempered steel and not suited for cutting, but they look great. Strongblade has a couple of really decent Gladii as well.
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Post by sicheah on Mar 20, 2010 3:17:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 0:27:37 GMT
Probably the only two ancient swords that Windlass makes that are somewhat historically accurate are their "Spartan Lakonian" and their "Pompeii Gladius". Other than the blade steel, I think these swords should be historically accurate enough for anyone other than a serious reenactor/collector. Here's KOA links to those two, in case you don't know what I'm talking about: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=500598&name=Roman+Pompeii+GladiusIf I remember correctly, the ricasso on that Pompeii is inaccurate. A proper Pompeii shouldn't have one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 1:22:25 GMT
Yep, the triangular ricasso is wrong and there are other issues but Xerexes did say "for anyone other than a serious reenactor/collector".
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