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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 1:20:02 GMT
As a bit of Saturday night recovery last weekend, some of my friends and I decided to lie motionless and watch a mindless action movie in a darkened room Sunday morning. We tossed around a few different ideas, until my buddy nate mentioned he had the "Blade movies." I wasn't really paying much attention or caring what we watched, but when he put in the original "Blade" I woke up a bit. See, in all the years since that first movie, and with the god-awful "Blade 3" and the beautifully shot but underwhelming "Blade 2" clouding my memory, I had totally forgotten how badass the orgininal "Blade" was. IT'S AWESOME.Case in point: Maybe it's mostly my seething pent-up hatred of "Twilight" fanaticism coming out at this point or a fond remembrance of the former glory of vampire movies, but as of this week, the fantasy sword most on my mind is that old standard: The "Blade" sword. I wanna slay some vampires. I drew up a blade-inspired sword a while back, and I really would like to have it made eventually: I imagine mine with a simplified hilt and an accurately hollow-ground blade with a reinforced point--something like the blade on the Albion Kingmaker. Oooh, it'd be cool. Does anyone else remember how satisfying the first Blade movie was? That's one of the first swords I've ever wanted to have, and now I'm jonesing for it again. Any one else ever wanted this vampire-slaying dealer of death?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 18:30:17 GMT
That's a great sword!
I think a lot of us are intrigued by the "blade" concept and for me in particular, I prefer something other than a medieval-era European style cruciform guard. Something slim, sleek and deadly....just like the daywalker's sword.
I've got an idea for a similar but much more traditional looking sword. I agree with you on the hollow-grinding idea and I envision my sword with a hollow-ground blade. It's something like a hollow-ground bastard-child of a Chinese jian and a Celtic long-sword. I also hope to have mine made but I'm not sure who could do the hollow-ground blade.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 23:50:54 GMT
Oh! Something else to add. It's not exactly accurate per se, but it illustrates how BLADE was doing the gritty dark superhero stuff back in 1998, and it still holds up now: Plus, c'mon, it's a pretty cool video. Edit--thanks, Chris. Glad to hear someone else's been thinking along the same lines.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 5:37:14 GMT
I'm with you there. Give me Blade, 30 Days of Night, anything but this "sparkly" vampire crap. I haven't brought myself to watch it yet, but I can imagine it's just as painful as I imagine.
A vampire is a monster, not a friggen Disney character.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 8:32:49 GMT
Right on Luna, you got skills and ideas a poppin. You should seriously consider a sideline in design work. This is purely personal preference, so take it as such. I think that one of the two rings at the front of the hilt should be slightly larger in diameter than the other. Nothing drastic, just slightly larger. The front ring being a tad larger would lend it more protection for the front hand, but the rear ring being slightly larger would carry the hourglass look of the pommel through the front of the hilt. Just thinking here, it looks great as is. The current sissy boy vampire craze= Interview With the Vampire was bearable as it was a great story, but come on man, this Twilight stuff is too much. I guess that if I was a teenage girl my nether regions would be all a quiver, but I am not and I wanna see torn neck cartilage and epic conflict. Emo vampires seriously
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 9:22:23 GMT
Yay I'm not the only one who hates with a passion all things failight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 14:31:25 GMT
I think now more than ever is the time to simply say: Kill the vampires. With swords. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!I loved the original Blade, and even the Buffy series, but I mean, c'mon, vampires are evil monsters who should all be killed. Not something teenage girls fall "in love" with. Napalm's too good for em. That sword is awesome looking. Get it made someday, and report back with all the dust you've collected
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 17:40:59 GMT
Love the sword idea Luna. I think it'd look nice with a damascus-style blade.
Also, check this out:
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Post by sparky on Jan 31, 2010 21:53:00 GMT
A vampire is a monster, not a friggen Disney character. Yay! This will be my quote of the week. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 22:02:27 GMT
A vampire is fictional, and can do whatever the author wants it to do. That said, Blade 1 was awesome. If you happen to have 3 on DVD, watch the blooper reel; all I can say is "squeegee".
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 1, 2010 3:13:20 GMT
I very much enjoyed the first Blade movie... and was saddened by the lameness of Blade 2 and 3. I used to play a lot of Vampire: The Masqurade... I had a LARP game at one point that had over 100 players... however... the new Tweener-Vampire Twilight crap makes wanna puke my guts out repeatedly, but to each their own as they say. There is an Odin-Blade that was inspiried by the DayWalkers sword... methinks you would dig it, Luna. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 5:01:49 GMT
Ooooh, yea, I've seen that odinblade. ;D ;D It was super cool, for sure.
The wide cutting blade, fishtail pommel, and rayskin grip worked together superbly on that one, but I went in a little different direction on this one. Lundemo went for maximizing the cutting potential; I wanted to have a mean thruster. Plus I've developed a recent fascination with hollow-ground blades, so that necessitated a slimmer profile and stiffer spine. I wish we had more reviews and opinions on expensive hollow-ground blades here; I've heard that for light targets they can cut just as well or better than thin fullered blades and the like, and I'd like to see an objective comparison of well-made blades. They're hard to beat for a thrust, and given the immense historical popularity of the type XVIII, they must have been extremely effective weapons in use.
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Post by Major, Cory J.~ on Feb 1, 2010 5:28:28 GMT
Hmmm Blade 1 was bad ass, but I really Enjoyed 2 and 3 (Ryan Reynolds is Hilarious!!!)but I see what every one is saying. Blade did loose his UBER bad ass, and gave him some humor. But I like that.
And Luna, that sword you designed is SWEET, I would just want a small guard for myself, don't want to run the risk of the sword going right through the Sheetheads chest and his rib cut my hand open, then get the thurst!!!!
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 1, 2010 5:51:10 GMT
Ooooh, yea, I've seen that odinblade. ;D ;D It was super cool, for sure. The wide cutting blade, fishtail pommel, and rayskin grip worked together superbly on that one, but I went in a little different direction on this one. Lundemo went for maximizing the cutting potential; I wanted to have a mean thruster. Plus I've developed a recent fascination with hollow-ground blades, so that necessitated a slimmer profile and stiffer spine. I wish we had more reviews and opinions on expensive hollow-ground blades here; I've heard that for light targets they can cut just as well or better than thin fullered blades and the like, and I'd like to see an objective comparison of well-made blades. They're hard to beat for a thrust, and given the immense historical popularity of the type XVIII, they must have been extremely effective weapons in use. I've no experince with Hallow ground blades personaly... by I'll be getting one in the near future, from Odin blades even... so I'll of course review it and let you know my thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 6:08:28 GMT
Now THAT's exciting! I can't wait to see what you cooked up with the Odin dude.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 14:22:42 GMT
Vampire-slaying swords always remind me of either a matrixy, high tech futuristic-looking contraption, or by stark contrast a very antiquated or older looking, slender blade. I have one that matches the latter description. I've dubbed it the "Pedang Nabur", as its design was inpired by the indonesian Parang Nabur (as demonstrated in the design of its hilt) yet the blade has no curve; characteristic only of blades known as "Pedang" in that same region. It was designed by a phillippine martial artist who had an interest in Southeast Asian blades. I suspect that the blade itself is more inpired by the Pinuti, a filipino weapon attributed to Christian tribes, rather than a pedang. Interesting since the sheath and hilt are inspired by design cues from Islamicized Indonesian tribes. I'd say it would handle well if coated with garlic juice and pitted against some blood-suckers, wouldn't you? This also prompts me to ask a question to spur some more discussion: What would you guys prefer in a vampire-hunting sword: a single edge or a double edge, and for what reasons?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 14:33:07 GMT
Thats a sweet blade pepperskull, thanks for posting pics of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 16:46:49 GMT
If I'm going with a "period" design, I'd take a pinfire sword that shoots silver bullets M.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 21:16:06 GMT
That's a nice design, Luna. Heck, I like it better then the actual Blade sword. I'm with you there. Give me Blade, 30 Days of Night, anything but this "sparkly" vampire crap. I haven't brought myself to watch it yet, but I can imagine it's just as painful as I imagine. You mean read. Twilight was a book before it was a movie, you know. And while it is actually hilariously bad -not just conceptually: it seriously has some of the worst prose I have seen outside of fanfiction- I don't really get why it upsets people to the degree it does. Please. Vampires can be anything. That's why they're so damn popular. You can stick them in any kind of story; five different flavors of horror, comic book action/adventure, saturday morning cartoons, and yes, even teen romance. People who complain that Twilight "ruined the vampire genre" has to remember that there is no such thing as a vampire genre to begin with and that no story automatically becomes horror just becase it has vampires in it. This also prompts me to ask a question to spur some more discussion: What would you guys prefer in a vampire-hunting sword: a single edge or a double edge, and for what reasons? Single-edged, but that's mostly personal preference. I don't think it would matter that much against a vampire. More importantly, I'd try to find something that excells at both decapitating and heart-piercing attacks, since that tends to be ones only options when fighting them. If I'm going with a "period" design, I'd take a pinfire sword that shoots silver bullets M. Silver is for werewolves, though. As a matter of fact, traditionally, one is said to have a much better chance at harming a vampire with steel then silver.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2010 21:28:41 GMT
Man, pepperskull I LOVE your taste in weapons. Beautiful. That seems like exactly the kind of "sleek older-looking" companion to the matrix-y blade I made to cover both ends of the vampire-killing spectrum. Plus that pommel flange is almost bat wing-like in appearance. 'S far as one edge or two on the vampire hunting agenda, I'd say my interests lean to the double edge, and though that may just be my normal overall aesthetic preference for double-edged blades (check my post in the $5350 thread for evidence ) I still have a couple of hypotheses as to why... I know the small guard of the blade or blade-inspired swords isn't ideal for the thrust, more of an aesthetic choice, but a double-edged blade still connotes an emphasis on the thrust, from the dagger all the way up to rapiers and renaissance pointy longswords (whether or not it actually performs that way). This draws a parallel with the vampire's fang and their method of dispatching a victim (they cant cut with those teeth) so I feel a sort of pleasant appropriateness in a weapon that references their own medicine, in a way. Likewise, the traditional methods of dispatching a vampire, like staking through the heart, exploit this same emphasis on corporeal penetration. Read whatever freudian implications into that that you will. (Though if we are to be completely honest, there's probably a valid basis somewhere for vampires being regarded as the extremely "sensual" demon.) At anyrate, a double edge also opens up some fun fight possibilities. I can think of a few short edge cuts that would look really cool lopping of a vamp-limb or two, and more traditional attacks are still viable.
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